Hi Hans Petter,

> Today we responded to a request from the Committee of the Verkhovna Rada of 
> Ukraine on Matters of National Security, Defense and Intelligence to discuss 
> measures to protect Internet number resources in Ukraine. We have published 
> this on our website: 
> https://www.ripe.net/publications/news/announcements/ripe-ncc-response-to-committee-of-the-verkhovna-rada-of-ukraine
> 
> As we note in our response, we will be presenting on this topic in the RIPE 
> NCC Services Working Group at RIPE 85 next week. We encourage anyone with an 
> interest in this topic to join that session. 

In your response you refer them to the Address Policy Working Group ("On the 
same day, from 09:00-11:30 UTC+2, the Address Policy Working Group will meet to 
discuss matters of policy, and we suggest that this would be a good forum to 
raise these matters.”). I am not sure I agree with that.

I think the current situation requires something like a transfer lock that LIRs 
can voluntarily activate. I remember already talking about that with NCC staff 
at the Berlin meeting, so the issue was known and a possible solution discussed 
a long time ago. To be honest I expected that the NCC had long since 
implemented something like this as an operational procedure. I do not consider 
something like that a matter for policy. The address policies stay exactly the 
same, only the operational procedures should change.

My personal feeling is that the NCC is taking much too long here, sending the 
poor ISPs in Ukraine into a lengthy process of having to write a policy that 
will take even longer to implement, for something that is an operational 
matter, not a policy one. I urge you to solve this inside the NCC as soon as 
possible. You do not need this community to write policy on how to protect the 
RIPE database’s contents from clear and present operational dangers.

I’m sure there will be many in this community scrutinising whatever you come up 
with, and there will be much debate on whether the solution the NCC implemented 
contains bike sheds in all the right colours, and I guess that is unavoidable 
in a bottom-up community. But a fast response (which IMHO should have been done 
months ago) is more important than perfection right now. Please go for “good 
enough for now” first.

Thank you
Sander


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