> This is, explicitly, the case you mentioned, no?

On second reading, yes it is.

> The point of pain from the past was actually the phrasing in 2.6

I don't see the problematic phrasing in the old version of 2.6.
Can you point it out please?

> The end-user will, in general, only hold one PI assignment covering their
needs at a time.

Perhaps the policy could be reworded to make this clearer.
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On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 at 11:01, Tobias Fiebig via address-policy-wg <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Moin,
>
>
> > The new text for 2.6 seems to not allow assignment of a /64 to an
> > appliance connected to the End User's network. As a VPS provider (and
> > as many other VPS providers do) I allocate a /64 to every VPS that
> > the customer is free to use however they want within the VPS.
> > The policy says that the purpose is to allow this (imo correctly so)
> > but on the most pedantic reading the policy itself doesn't seem to
> > allow that.
>
> Using, most likely, PA at the moment, I guess. ;-)
>
> Despite, the policy states:
>
> Providing connectivity to another entity inside the assignment holder’s
> network located at the same geographical End Site as the holder’s
> network with a prefix size of /56 or longer from the assignment is not
> considered a sub-assignment. This includes letting visitors connect to
> the assignment holder's network, providing static addresses when
> connecting a server or appliance to an assignment holder's network,
>
> This is, explicitly, the case you mentioned, no?
>
> > Tiny nit: 2.6 should make an explicit reference to "best practices"
> > being IETF BCP157, just for clarity for the uninformed reader.
>
> Can be fixed.
>
>
> > I think 7.1 should be explicit that prefixes shorter than a /48 can
> > be assigned to one End Site, as this has been a major pain point in
> > the past.
>
> The general rule of thumb is one /48 per end-site, unless addressing
> (2.7) or routing reasons require more. The point of pain from the past
> was actually the phrasing in 2.6, where an oxford comma was missing,
> restricting it to addressing needs only in practice.
>
>
> > The nibble boundary assignment mechanism is neat, I like it!
>
> Thanks.
>
> > Does "All previously issued PI assignments must be returned to the
> > RIPE NCC after renumbering once the new PI assignment has been issued
> > or an existing one was extended" mean to imply that an End User will
> > only ever receive 1 PI assignment under this new policy but that it
> > can be expanded as much as is needed to accommodate addressing needs?
> > If so this should be more explicit.
>
> The end-user will, in general, only hold _one_ PI assignment covering
> their needs at a time. Exceptions are:
>
> - A more specific policy permits more Assignments, e.g., if the IXP PI
> policy would explicitly note PI prefixes to be additionally assigned,
> due to the override of more specific policy (2nd par 7.1; Also there to
> resolve the issue that, at the moment, the IXP policy is incompatible
> with the general policy, as it allows /64 assignments)
> - The end-user had received PI before the updated policy came into
> effect and keeps (justified!) extending the renumbering period; Still,
> _return_ is mandated, as this means the resources can no longer be
> transferred (to counter hoarding).
> - For the period of time during renumbering, given the prior resources
> have not been assigned prior to the new version of the policy being
> implemented.
>
> Furthermore, held PI can only be extended if unused space allows so,
> see 7.1.2. Otherwise, a new assignment satisfying the addressing needs
> will be made (with, recommended at least, an additional nibble left
> unused for subsequent growth), and the EU has to renumber.
>
> Finally, the maximum size of PI is locked at 'a nibble less than the
> smallest allocation', i.e., there cannot be a PI assignment larger than
> a /36.
>
> > I support this policy and look forward to its refinement and
> > implementation.
>
> Thank you, appreciated.
>
> With best regards,
> Tobias
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