That's exactly what I was trying to tell you. Dzenan Causevic Software Web Developer NaviSite, Inc. Syracuse, NY (315) 453-2912 x5346
-----Original Message----- From: Brian Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Trinidad replaces ADF Faces? Yeah the Oracle Forum for JDeveloper stinks when it comes to ADF Faces. I can see what you mean. I posted a few questions on there and never got anything either. I just wish I would have found this list sooner too. -Brian On 10/12/06, Causevic, Dzenan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe I used a wrong word "documented" in place of "supported". > I posted this same question with this issue to their discussion list and > nobody gave me any answer for a week. That's what I mean. > > Interestingly enough, even that answer was finally found for me but here > at TRINIDAD. So for me, even that fact speaks for itself. At this > discussion list I even find the answers for something beyond this > project. For me that's a definitely a place to stay. Bye, bye ADF > Faces... > > Dzenan Causevic > Software Web Developer > NaviSite, Inc. > Syracuse, NY > (315) 453-2912 x5346 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:34 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Trinidad replaces ADF Faces? > > I personally thought that ADF Faces was pretty well documented. It just > got > confusing sometimes based on the versioning. Some documentation dealt > with > the EA releases specifically. I too am using Trinidad now specifically > for > the built in Facelets support. With ADF Faces you had to boot strap > another > jar that was provided by Adam Winer to the facelets project. It just > added > to complexity of getting it to work. I am just getting anxious for > Trinidad > to graduate from Incubation. The link I provided is the "official" > download > page for ADF Faces on Oracle's site. I just joined the mailing list > yesterday so I could not have answered it sooner. Sorry. > > Good luck with your projects. > > -Brian > > On 10/12/06, Causevic, Dzenan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Well I did not get it from there. I got it from ADF Faces official > > project page at Oracle's web site. I wish you told me this few months > > ago. I was googling all over the place for any link with adf-share.lib > > and couldn't find it. And that was exactly why it was braking up. That > > library file was missing, I was searching for it to try with it, and > > couldn't find it until now. > > > > Now I am happily engaged with Trinidad and have no intention of going > > back. I still think ADF Faces was badly documented if I couldn't > resolve > > this issue. > > > > I personally think Trinidad for the above reasons (damn adf-share.jar > > and such things) is a better choice. Never had any problem so far. > > > > Dzenan Causevic > > Software Web Developer > > NaviSite, Inc. > > Syracuse, NY > > (315) 453-2912 x5346 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brian Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:14 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Trinidad replaces ADF Faces? > > > > If you download the ADF Faces standalone from here > > > http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/jdev/htdocs/adfjsf.ht > > ml > > The ADFShare jar is in with the demo application that comes with it ( > > adf-faces-demo.war) > > WEB-INF/lib/adf-share-3549S.jar > > > > On 10/12/06, Causevic, Dzenan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > It was probably then ADFShare.jar because I never could find that > > file. > > > I was suspecting it might be the reason but I did not get that > library > > > with my regular distribution. I only got API and IMPL ones. Where > did > > > you get ADFShare.jar anyway? > > > > > > Bug was manifested in a following way: I could compile and build the > > > project, however in order to run it I had to remove IMPL jar. Once I > > > removed it, I could run the project but <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> directive did > not > > > work so it was like a magic circle. > > > > > > Dzenan Causevic > > > Software Web Developer > > > NaviSite, Inc. > > > Syracuse, NY > > > (315) 453-2912 x5346 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Brian Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 2:58 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: Trinidad replaces ADF Faces? > > > > > > Nope, I was using ADF Faces 10.1.3.0.4 with Netbeans 5.5 Beta 2 > > > > > > What specifically was the problem/bug? > > > > > > On 10/12/06, Causevic, Dzenan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > You must have used something else then version 10. It must have > been > > > > version 9 or below. > > > > > > > > Dzenan Causevic > > > > Software Web Developer > > > > NaviSite, Inc. > > > > Syracuse, NY > > > > (315) 453-2912 x5346 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Brian Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 2:27 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: Trinidad replaces ADF Faces? > > > > > > > > I am a Netbeans user as well. I really did not have any problems > > > using > > > > ADF > > > > Faces with Netbeans 5.5 Beta2 or RC1. The big sticking point was > > > > including > > > > the ADFShare jar in with it. The ADF Docs say you don't need it, > > but > > > i > > > > could not build without it. > > > > > > > > On 10/12/06, Causevic, Dzenan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From my experience I think that's exactly the case. That was my > > > > > conclusion. I first tried ADF Faces and I had problems to > install > > it > > > > to work > > > > > with NetBeans. Actually I discovered a serious bug that prevents > > ADF > > > > Faces > > > > > v10 from installing with NetBeans v5.5 correctly. It took me a > > long > > > > time > > > > > until I figured it out, 'cos I did not get any kind of technical > > > > support > > > > > from their discussion list. Nobody knew anything why I was > having > > > > difficulty > > > > > installing it with NetBeans. That was very frustrating, so I > dont > > > > blame if > > > > > even Oracle people itself are switching to Trinidad. > > > > > > > > > > Basically my above mentioned problems resulted in me trying > > Trinidad > > > > as an > > > > > alternative and once I got my hands on it I was quite happy to > > have > > > > found > > > > > it. I personally dont see any reason to use ADF Faces over > > Trinidad. > > > > > Trinidad is much, much better supported + it has a brigther > future > > > as > > > > a > > > > > project I believe. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Brian Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Thu 10/12/2006 1:08 PM > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > Subject: Trinidad replaces ADF Faces? > > > > > > > > > > Will Trinidad replace the ADF Faces component set? I have heard > > > that > > > > > Oracle > > > > > is using Trinidad builds heavily internally. Is the plan to > > > desupport > > > > ADF > > > > > Faces components once Trinidad makes it through incubation? Is > > > there > > > > > plans > > > > > to support Trinidad (visual designer and such) in an upcoming > > > release > > > > of > > > > > JDeveloper? Thanks for any light shed. > > > > > -Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
