library form?

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From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics.
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frans Bouma
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 4:18 AM
To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM
Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] VS ASP.NET 2005

> Hi all,I was just wondering if anybody else has decided to
> shun the new ASP.NET project model advocated by VS 2005.
>
> I am sticking with the VS 2003 model.  It is almost like they
> are trying to cater for ASP developers (of which I used to be one).

        No matter what you choose, it will suck. The problem is that there's
not a single solution which fits all different website
development styles. Some see a website as a set of loosely coupled pages,
others see it as a windowsforms project with a different
style of how you define your forms.

        Add to that that the application by itself isn't runnable, you need
a HOST to run it in (webserver), with a viewer app to
make it move (browser).

> The fact that the Global.asax file in the new web project
> template contains inline script was enough to make my skin
> crawl.   The appCode facility is unecessary.
>
> Partial classes are I suppose ok for compartmentalising code
> but really a smell that your class is too big.

        Not necessarily. Partial classes have the advantage that you can use
designers which generate parts of your classes and you
have a safe way of adding your own code to the class in a convenient way.

> Anybody who wants to stick to the superior VS 2003 model
> should look no further than the following:
> http://webproject.scottgu.com/Default.aspx

        I found the 2003 model also very bad, especially the necessity for
loading the project via the webserver. As if I want to
develop my software through a webserver. that's why I always choose the
library form of doing websites with asp.net. It loads very
fast and works as expected. I haven't done any porting of a lib based
website to vs.net 2005, but I don't expect much problems.

                Frans

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