I'm interested in your opinion but the way you wrote it, I'm not really sure
what you're trying to express.. or what you're trying to use this in
opposition to.


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Vince

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> To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM
> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] [Semi-OT] UML Flowchart / Process Mapping
> Software
>
> I do not intend to start a religious battle, but recognize that it might
happen.  I
> wonder what your motivation is in using UML.
>
> It was pointed out in the book "Holub on Patterns: Learning Design
Patterns by
> Looking at Code" that many different design patterns appear to have
identical UML
> representations.  I wonder about any "picture-based" representation that
can hide
> such distinctions.
>
> Unless you think MS was crazy when they designed VSTS, you have to believe
that
> "plain" UML is simply not expressive enough to fully support software
development.
>
> Maybe I'm nuts (and MS too), but UML seems to need someone to stand up and
say
> "maybe there are some clothes on that emperor, but they sure are
threadbare".
>
> At 07:55 AM 5/25/2006, Gregory Miley wrote
> >Dia actually looks great, well I mean to say, it performs just right.
> >Very simple interface (think the Gimp), yet allows for advanced editing
> >of objects. Being free, this app seems to be perfect so far.
> >
> >As I mentioned in my first email, I had downloaded and installed Visual
> >Paradigm (also free, Community Edition). It seemed like a very rich
> >application, but overly complicated for use as a quick uml editor. (At
> >least in my opinion.) I've never been a fan of UML editors, they've
> >always just seemed too convoluted, but that may just be me and my lack
> >of serious commitment to them.
> >
> >Thanks for the suggestion of Dia George.
> >
> >Greg
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics.
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George V.
> >Reilly
> >Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 03:20
> >To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM
> >Subject: Re: [Semi-OT] UML Flowchart / Process Mapping Software
> >
> >Dia draws UML and flowcharts: http://dia-installer.sourceforge.net/
> >[snip]
>
>
> J. Merrill / Analytical Software Corp
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