I was trying to say (without being as blunt as in this message) that "naked" UML could stand for Useless Markup Language.
At 04:31 PM 5/26/2006, Vince P wrote >I'm interested in your opinion but the way you wrote it, I'm not really sure >what you're trying to express.. or what you're trying to use this in >opposition to. > >--- >Vince > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:ADVANCED- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Merrill >> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:11 PM >> To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM >> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] [Semi-OT] UML Flowchart / Process Mapping >> Software >> >> I do not intend to start a religious battle, but recognize that it might >happen. I >> wonder what your motivation is in using UML. >> >> It was pointed out in the book "Holub on Patterns: Learning Design >Patterns by >> Looking at Code" that many different design patterns appear to have >identical UML >> representations. I wonder about any "picture-based" representation that >can hide >> such distinctions. >> >> Unless you think MS was crazy when they designed VSTS, you have to believe >that >> "plain" UML is simply not expressive enough to fully support software >development. >> >> Maybe I'm nuts (and MS too), but UML seems to need someone to stand up and >say >> "maybe there are some clothes on that emperor, but they sure are >threadbare". >> >> At 07:55 AM 5/25/2006, Gregory Miley wrote >> >Dia actually looks great, well I mean to say, it performs just right. >> >Very simple interface (think the Gimp), yet allows for advanced editing >> >of objects. Being free, this app seems to be perfect so far. >> > >> >As I mentioned in my first email, I had downloaded and installed Visual >> >Paradigm (also free, Community Edition). It seemed like a very rich >> >application, but overly complicated for use as a quick uml editor. (At >> >least in my opinion.) I've never been a fan of UML editors, they've >> >always just seemed too convoluted, but that may just be me and my lack >> >of serious commitment to them. >> > >> >Thanks for the suggestion of Dia George. >> > >> >Greg >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. >> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George V. >> >Reilly >> >Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 03:20 >> >To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM >> >Subject: Re: [Semi-OT] UML Flowchart / Process Mapping Software >> > >> >Dia draws UML and flowcharts: http://dia-installer.sourceforge.net/ >> >[snip] J. Merrill / Analytical Software Corp =================================== This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
