American here with a tip for non-Americans: any time you see one of us start complaining about "woke" anything, feel free to ignore anything else they have to say.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 18:10, justina colmena ~biz <[[email protected]](mailto:On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 18:10, justina colmena ~biz <<a href=)> wrote: > Well, to be honest, we don't have the vanity license plates or a team of > mounties standing guard in front of our houses while we program on OpenBSD > drug-dealing software in the U.S., and U.S. contributions are generally > unwelcome to the OpenBSD project anyways. > > What would J.D. Vance say? I do believe it's about time for Americans to get > off the property of woke socialists and communists who are colluding and > imposing other secret and hidden sanctions and refusing to let us use *their* > software anyways. Berkeley, CA is part of the USA after all. I do think we > need to re-conquer the BSD's from the Canadians and their cop-calling Karens. > > It's essentially Canada/EU-only nation-state-level intellectual property, and > German hackers keep having us SWATTED by our own politically partisan local > unionized beat cops on false reports from compromised police stations with > fake and forged charging documents in court if we do any such programming > work on any such software on our own property. > > On March 28, 2025 2:49:57 PM PDT, Ben Goren <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Um … might I suggest? >> >> This discussion has wandered quite far from anything related to OpenBSD. >> While I’m sure there are many here sympathetic to your comments, this really >> isn’t the appropriate venue for them. >> >> Cheers, >> >> b& >> >>> On Mar 28, 2025, at 1:54 PM, justina colmena ~biz <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> "Freemen on the land also advocate schemes to avoid taxes" >>> >>> Such as voting down the said taxes. Unless there is some other scheme in >>> place to tax people against their collective will. >>> >>> "Je ne contracte pas" — so whatever it was I didn't agree to it. Somebody >>> else's agreement. What about all those shrink wrap license agreements on >>> commercial software offerings? After you've paid for them and can no longer >>> get your money back by returning the item you paid for. >>> >>> “I stopped nurturing any interest in Ancap/Libertarianism when I realized >>> it is but yet another neuroatypy.” — There's got to be a good reason for >>> enacting and enforcing some kind of "law" other than just a bunch of petty >>> rules to punish people just for the sake of punishing them. >>> >>> For example, a lot of people are too lazy to mow their own lawns, but then >>> they go to court with service of process and summons to appear to force >>> their neighbors to mow their lawns to their expectations. In which case I >>> suppose a blade of grass a fraction of an inch too long that tickles your >>> bare foot is a prime example of "neuroatypy" unless it's actually against >>> the law to go barefoot on your own lawn in neighborhoods like that. >>> >>> On March 28, 2025 9:59:34 AM PDT, Sylvain Saboua <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Oh, I see ! You're from the “Common Law v Maritime Law,” “Free Man on the >>>> Land” [1] bunch. I've enjoyed this conspiracy theory a lot, in France we >>>> had the “je ne contracte pas” [2] stemming from it just last year. But >>>> French law stems from Napoleonic Civil Code, i.e. continental law, which >>>> is ; little to do with Common Law... Anyways. >>>> >>>> [1] >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land_movement >>>> >>>> [2] >>>> https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxWnBY9qjby4Uw71PwEZ3EvFhlKiWRqkB9 >>>> >>>> In the end, I believe this all stems from the misplaced free association >>>> thought (or misplaced “right brain” more or less). As somebody else says, >>>> “I stopped nurturing any interest in Ancap/Libertarianism when I realized >>>> it is but yet another neuroatypy.” >>>> >>>> Enjoy >>>> >>>> On 2025-03-28 14:58, justina colmena ~biz wrote: >>>> >>>>> The shrinks got too litigious, and "mental health" is practiced as a >>>>> >>>>> branch of "law" alongside "intellectual property" and other matters >>>>> >>>>> that are either "imaginary" or "all in your head" ... >>>>> >>>>> There are laws against "simulating legal process" over such imaginary >>>>> >>>>> matters etc. >>>>> >>>>> < >>>>> https://law.justia.com/codes/alaska/title-11/chapter-56/article-4/section-11-56-620/ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> but such laws are never enforced, because even without a Constitution >>>>> >>>>> the law itself can't be illegal in a court of law, and even if it >>>>> >>>>> were, the attorneys can't prosecute themselves or else they'd put >>>>> >>>>> themselves out of business for their own practices. >>>>> >>>>> The "law" itself by definition being whatever "lawyers" keep >>>>> >>>>> themselves in business practicing and billing for. Unless you think >>>>> >>>>> you can be successful in court as yet another crackpot mentally ill >>>>> >>>>> "pro se" petitioner with a flat tire or another speeding ticket or >>>>> >>>>> traffic violation on the way to court you must answer, with paying off >>>>> >>>>> all your parking tickets and getting your vehicle released from city >>>>> >>>>> hall impound after court, but your own petitions are just going to be >>>>> >>>>> professionally dismissed for failure to appear at any one of those >>>>> >>>>> numerous perfunctory court hearings for filing a suit. Cops have >>>>> >>>>> grappling hooks and shoot-out axle nets to physically disable and stop >>>>> >>>>> your vehicle on the road now. That's why the real pro lawyers always >>>>> >>>>> hail a cab or take Uber or Lyft to court because you can't even >>>>> >>>>> consider driving or parking your own vehicle in a hostile red-light >>>>> >>>>> district. >>>>> >>>>> On March 28, 2025 2:48:29 AM PDT, [email protected] wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2025-03-28 07:01, justina colmena ~biz wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, March 27, 2025 8:51:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time izzy >>>>>> >>>>>> Meyer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Curious why you chose to invalidate this person's experience that >>>>>> >>>>>> they >>>>>> >>>>>> made themselves vulnerable about. Sure- you have your views on >>>>>> >>>>>> things, >>>>>> >>>>>> and that's totally cool. But maybe try being a bit more forgiving of >>>>>> >>>>>> someone who, again, made themselves vulnerable next time? >>>>>> >>>>>> People serve process with mental health allegations that sticks >>>>>> >>>>>> worse than a >>>>>> >>>>>> felony record in court for the rest of a person's life, and they >>>>>> >>>>>> want others >>>>>> >>>>>> to be forgiving of them? >>>>> >>>>> Oh ! I think I get you. I had the impression that you were sympathetic >>>>> >>>>> to >>>>> >>>>> antipsychiatry, especially given the related posts on your blog. I'm >>>>> >>>>> still >>>>> >>>>> not very sure but ... I've never been charged for anything criminal or >>>>> >>>>> against >>>>> >>>>> the law, you're making quite a broad generalization here. >>>>> >>>>> When talking about mental illness and the aforementioned soothing I >>>>> >>>>> get from >>>>> >>>>> obsd and suckless, I was alluding to the relative cognitive overload >>>>> >>>>> undeliberately enforced by other projects which seems mostly absent >>>>> >>>>> from these >>>>> >>>>> two – as hinted at in the title of my page UNIX.html @saboua.xyz >>>>> >>>>>> Mental health services, like those of astrologers or magicians, >>>>>> >>>>>> psychics, >>>>>> >>>>>> tarot card readers, palmists, have gained far too much of a sheen of >>>>>> >>>>>> legitimacy (or color of law, as it were) in court for service of >>>>>> >>>>>> process and >>>>>> >>>>>> summons to appear -- Say does a person really have an organic >>>>>> >>>>>> "mental illness" >>>>>> >>>>>> of known etiology? Or is it simply a case of simulated legal process >>>>>> >>>>>> with a >>>>>> >>>>>> catch-all diagnosis to make a person appear "formally mad" in a >>>>>> >>>>>> court of law >>>>>> >>>>>> for some other legal summons? >>>>> >>>>> That's right. A lot of diagnoses are abusive, esp. when considering >>>>> >>>>> the prevalent >>>>> >>>>> traumatic liminal state that pervades among our relatives within >>>>> >>>>> society. But as >>>>> >>>>> for me I attribute this to Big Pharma's lucrative motive, not legal >>>>> >>>>> summons which >>>>> >>>>> I've seen cases of while at the ward. >>>>> >>>>>> Absolutely no morality is inherent in the "law" just because it's >>>>>> >>>>>> the law. >>>>> >>>>> Precisely. Legal is not necessarily moral. >>>>> >>>>> Sylvain Saboua
