On 7/2/07, John Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Michael Fötsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Something for badvista.org:
> >
> > http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml
> >
>
> Very interesting article -- adding it to the site feed, thanks.
>
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> "Microsoft put all those functionality-crippling features into Vista because 
> it
> wants to own the entertainment industry. This isn't how Microsoft spins it, of
> course. It maintains that it has no choice...It's all complete nonsense."
>     --Bruce Schneier, "DRM in Windows Vista"
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I been telling everyone that Vista feeds info to MS since the first
Beta of Vista was out. All it takes is a bit of packet gathering to
see what is going back and forth.  The only problem is when the user
agrees with the EULA and license they are accepting this.  You can ask
most home users what the EULA is and get "Whats a EULA?",  plus for
some reason they just do not care.  I explained this to many a Window
user and my response I receive is well Microsoft is not doing anything
to me so what if they get my info.  Or, they already know.  My
question is this:  Are they reaping credit card information, privacy
information (medical or personal), or whatever else without the users
consent or knowledge?

It seems people are afraid to speak out, even the security companies.
The other area is to find this information one must violate Microsoft
EULA's, licenses so this places the finder in a precarious position of
being sued or taken to court by Microsoft and its mass of lawyers and
money.  One has to thread lightly in this area as even the DOJ only
rendered a slap on the wrist to MS for anti-trust compared to the
European Union.  One does not know who MS has in their pockets in the
US and even with proof it could pose a considerable threat upon the
one who goes after Microsoft.  I was advised to go the individual
state route and not federal just because of what I just wrote.


George
greenarrow1
InNetInvestigations-Forensic
SuSe 10.2/TriStar/Apache
GoBoLinux
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