I understand that you are concerned with what's in the packets. My point was only that you couldn't be taken to court for examining the packets without actually reverse engineering the OS.
Good luck with Google. Brad On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 20:19:33 -0700 "member greenarrow1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Brad, > > Its not the packets I am worrying about, it is divulging what is in > the packets. I have some legal people at Google looking at some of > the areas I found since they seem to be pursuing anti-trust against > MS. I figure Google the lessor of 2 evils and they are looking at > ways to get at Microsoft so why not add some ammo for Google. > > George > > On 7/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If one were merely capturing the packets that Vista was sending to > M$, > > surely that wouldn't qualify as reverse engineering or > circumventing DRM. > > Comments? > > > > Brad > > > > > > On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 21:48:23 -0700 "member greenarrow1" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Only if we bench test but not talk about. This is what the > problem > > > is > > > as you stated because if one tears apart anything you are > violating > > > the EULA and license. The EULA back talks itself in areas > allowing > > > you in one statement then denying you in another. One area of > > > concern > > > is WGA as it requests to change and modify the physical memory > thus > > > creating a back door avenue for root kits. MS told me they > fixed > > > this > > > months ago but I found it back again with the last WGA update > so > > > whom > > > are they trying to fool. > > > > > > Besides Google has now been in contact with me about the info I > > > have. > > > As much as I do not really like Google privacy and rules at > least > > > this > > > is a avenue for me for financial and lawyer support against > Vista > > > and > > > MS. If Vista and MS do not violate anti-trust in certain > software > > > and > > > software areas then we all might as well forget everything > because > > > they have the higher ups in their pockets. Plus regardless of > what > > > the EULA and license states and the user agrees does not mean > the > > EULA > > > does not violate federal or state privacy laws. The EULA > leaves > > > that > > > open as to what MS can do with private info in the future and > needs > > > court clarification. I want to know what law gives them the > right > > > to > > > collect this data in the first place. Preventing piracy is not > a > > > legal reason nor do I feel it would stand up in court. MS is > a > > > big > > > backer of DRM and one of the reasons is their wanting control > of > > > what > > > you do, the internet, and everything that you have on your > > > computer. > > > They want the user to be totally dependent on Microsoft. > > > > > > George > > > > > > On 7/3/07, Mario Torre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Il giorno lun, 02/07/2007 alle 22.42 -0700, member greenarrow1 > ha > > > > scritto: > > > > > > > > > Maybe a little of both. If I told MS that portions of > their > > > software > > > > > violate privacy laws they will come back and ask me how I > derived > > > this > > > > > info. > > > > > > > > On a side note, we are currently violating the EULA ;), which > > > forbids > > > > users to reveal portion of itself... > > > > > > > > Mario > > > > -- > > > > Lima Software - http://www.limasoftware.net/ > > > > GNU Classpath Developer - http://www.classpath.org/ > > > > Fedora Ambassador - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MarioTorre > > > > Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > pgp key: http://subkeys.pgp.net/ PGP Key ID: 80F240CF > > > > Fingerprint: BA39 9666 94EC 8B73 27FA FC7C 4086 63E3 80F2 > 40CF > > > > > > > > Please, support open standards: > > > > http://opendocumentfellowship.org/petition/ > > > > http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Advocate mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > http://badvista.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/advocate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > greenarrow1 > > > InNetInvestigations-Forensic > > > SuSe 10.2/TriStar/Apache > > > GoBoLinux > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Advocate mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://badvista.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/advocate > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Advocate mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://badvista.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/advocate > > > > > -- > greenarrow1 > InNetInvestigations-Forensic > SuSe 10.2/TriStar/Apache > GoBoLinux > > _______________________________________________ > Advocate mailing list > [email protected] > http://badvista.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/advocate > > _______________________________________________ Advocate mailing list [email protected] http://badvista.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/advocate
