Hi Tim,
Thanks for the feedback regarding the account structure report. As an
aside, the v201003 ReportDefinitionService takes a different approach,
removing account structure reports completely and support zero-
impressions for all report types. Report generations is also much
faster with this service, so it may be worth exploring.
Best,
- Eric
On Jul 28, 10:52 pm, tozor <t...@adlucent.com> wrote:
> Thanks much Eric. One comment I would make is that the Account
> Structure report is not a complete replacement for the zero impression
> keyword report because of the fact that first page cpc and quality
> score are not available in the Account Structure report. This is the
> main reason I have not switched to it. I have seen other people in
> this group raise the issue of the lack of support for these two
> attributes in the structure report. I suspect most application
> developers who are syncing a database from one of these reports are
> probably going to require quality score and first page cpc, since
> these are common attributes to keep in your application database.
> Hopefully you folks will add these attributes to the Account Structure
> report in the near future.
>
> Tim
>
> On Jul 28, 5:07 pm, AdWords API Advisor <adwordsapiadvi...@google.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi Tim,
>
> > It looks like the problem is that this account has over the advisable
> > number of ad groups for a report with that configuration. Because of
> > an error in the validation logic this limit isn't checked if specific
> > campaignIds are specified in the report job, which is why that
> > configuration doesn't return an error. While this job may be
> > currently succeeding in this configuration, since it is over the
> > limits it might start failing at any time. I would refer you back to
> > my original advice to either segment your data or use the Account
> > Structure report to get this information instead.
>
> > Best,
> > - Eric
>
> > On Jul 27, 6:12 pm, tozor <t...@adlucent.com> wrote:
>
> > > Here is a failed request:
>
> > > 51c8e997ea0e13c961b41e81559a97c8
>
> > > Thanks.
>
> > > Tim
>
> > > On Jul 27, 5:01 pm, AdWords API Advisor <adwordsapiadvi...@google.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Hi Tim,
>
> > > > Your original failed request from earlier is no longer in the logs.
> > > > Can you please schedule another of those reports and send me the new
> > > > requestId?
>
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > - Eric
>
> > > > On Jul 27, 2:28 pm, tozor <t...@adlucent.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > I made a request with all 106 campaigns and it worked. Here is the
> > > > > request id:
>
> > > > > ad94b71784836c3a7cfdc6ff2315435b
>
> > > > > Once again thanks very much for working with me on this issue.
>
> > > > > Tim
>
> > > > > On Jul 27, 12:47 pm, AdWords API Advisor
>
> > > > > <adwordsapiadvi...@google.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Tim,
>
> > > > > > It looks like the account contains 106 campaigns, if you count the
> > > > > > deleted ones, but your second request only includes 75 campaigns. I
> > > > > > believe these extra campaigns are causing the report to be over the
> > > > > > size limit.
>
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > - Eric
>
> > > > > > On Jul 26, 2:01 pm, tozor <t...@adlucent.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Here is the one with no campaign ids that fails:
>
> > > > > > > 32320c4e46d082fa1c100dbeebcc3b49
>
> > > > > > > Here is the one with all campaign ids that works:
>
> > > > > > > 063342a4efc425e78565e94e11d47641
>
> > > > > > > Thanks again.
>
> > > > > > > Tim
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 26, 9:54 am, AdWords API Advisor
> > > > > > > <adwordsapiadvi...@google.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Hi Tim,
>
> > > > > > > > Can you post the requestIds of the requests used to schedule
> > > > > > > > these
> > > > > > > > reports (the one that fails and the one that succeeds).
> > > > > > > > Perhaps that
> > > > > > > > will shed some light on the issue.
>
> > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > - Eric
>
> > > > > > > > On Jul 23, 5:53 pm, tozor <t...@adlucent.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > I appreciate the reply, but doesn't it seem logically
> > > > > > > > > inconsistent
> > > > > > > > > that I can request the same report with all of the campaign
> > > > > > > > > ids and it
> > > > > > > > > works? If I leave the campaign ids empty it fails. Wouldn't
> > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > agree that it is logically equivalent to either specify all
> > > > > > > > > of the
> > > > > > > > > campaign ids or leave the campaign ids empty? If you agree,
> > > > > > > > > then why
> > > > > > > > > does the report fail in one instance and not in the other?
>
> > > > > > > > > Tim
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jul 23, 2:27 pm, AdWords API Advisor
> > > > > > > > > <adwordsapiadvi...@google.com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Tim,
>
> > > > > > > > > > There are many factors that go into deciding whether or not
> > > > > > > > > > the report
> > > > > > > > > > is too large, beyond the number of keywords or date range
> > > > > > > > > > alone. It
> > > > > > > > > > is likely that there are other factors that would make this
> > > > > > > > > > report too
> > > > > > > > > > large. My recommendation at this time would be to split up
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > report into multiple reports, perhaps segmenting on the
> > > > > > > > > > campaignId, so
> > > > > > > > > > that you can get the data you need. Alternatively, you can
> > > > > > > > > > remove the
> > > > > > > > > > zero impression option, and use the Account Structure
> > > > > > > > > > Report to fetch
> > > > > > > > > > information about all of the keywords in the account.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > - Eric
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jul 23, 8:33 am, tozor <t...@adlucent.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > This remains an issue for my application and the account
> > > > > > > > > > > in question.
> > > > > > > > > > > Is there additional information I can provide to get a
> > > > > > > > > > > resolution to
> > > > > > > > > > > this issue? There must be a heuristic on the Adwords
> > > > > > > > > > > back end which
> > > > > > > > > > > is trying to make sure that a user does not request a
> > > > > > > > > > > report that is
> > > > > > > > > > > too large/expensive to generate, and it seems for some
> > > > > > > > > > > reason this
> > > > > > > > > > > heuristic is rejecting a zero impression report (again
> > > > > > > > > > > for a single
> > > > > > > > > > > day) on this account. Seems like there is a bug on the
> > > > > > > > > > > back end which
> > > > > > > > > > > is somehow being triggered by the structure of this
> > > > > > > > > > > account.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > This problem is reproducible at will, so please let me
> > > > > > > > > > > know what I can
> > > > > > > > > > > do to help get the issue resolved on your end. I do have
> > > > > > > > > > > a workaround
> > > > > > > > > > > (to include all of the campaign ids in the zero
> > > > > > > > > > > impression report
> > > > > > > > > > > request) but it is not optimal for me because of how our
> > > > > > > > > > > application
> > > > > > > > > > > is structured. I am hoping to get the core issue fixed.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Tim
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 13, 7:20 pm, tozor <t...@adlucent.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > When I notice the problem it is for
> > > > > > > > > > > > azeroimpressionreport for the
> > > > > > > > > > > > current day.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Tim
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 13, 5:55 pm, AdWords API Advisor
> > > > > > > > > > > > <adwordsapiadvi...@google.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Tim,
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you noticing this for one day in particular, or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > is it happening
> > > > > > > > > > > > > for any day chosen?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > - Eric Koleda, AdWords API Team
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 12, 9:27 am, tozor <t...@adlucent.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I get the followingunexpectederror when trying to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > run azero
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >impressionkeyword report:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > AxisFault
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > faultCode:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > {http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/}
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Server.userException
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > faultSubcode:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > faultString: IncludingZeroImpressionKeywords will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > make your report
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > too large to run. To include this data, please
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > narrow the scope of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > other report settings in this request (such as your
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > View, Date Range,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > or Campaign/Ad Group selections).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > faultActor:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > faultNode:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > faultDetail:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > {https://adwords.google.com/api/adwords/v13}fault:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <ns1:code>112</ns1:code>
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <ns1:message>IncludingZeroImpressionKeywords
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > will make your
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > report too large to run. To include this data,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > please narrow the scope
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of other report settings in this request (such as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > your View, Date
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Range, or Campaign/Ad Group
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > selections).</ns1:message>
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The reason this error isunexpectedto me is that the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > date range I am
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > using is for a single day. Furthermore the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > account, while large, is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > nowhere near as large as many of the other accounts
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that our
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > application manages. This account has about 400K
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > keywords, but our
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > application manages several accounts that are twice
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that size and we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > have never had an issue getting a single
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dayzeroimpressionreport.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other strange issue is that I can change my
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > report request to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > include all of the campaign ids in the account and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the report runs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > correctly. So I am still able to get the report
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that I wanted (azero
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >impressionreport for the entire account) but I can't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >do it if I leave
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the DefinedReportJob.campaigns field empty.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > However leaving the field
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > empty and setting it to all of the campaign ids in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the account is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > functionally equivalent.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom on this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim
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