Hi,

Sorry, I forgot you're already targeting by ad group. In that case, there's 
no need to worry about campaign-level batching since an ad group only 
exists in one campaign.

Thanks,
Josh, AdWords API Team

On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 2:05:05 PM UTC-4, João Aparício wrote:
>
> Hi again Josh,
>
> Are you saying that even though those operations target a certain 
> AdGroupId, grouping together adgroups that belong to the same campaign is 
> faster?
>
>
>
> On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 5:23:52 PM UTC, Josh Radcliff (AdWords API 
> Team) wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Glad to hear that reducing the # of operations helped. You may also want 
>> to consider grouping operations as specified in the best practices guide 
>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/bestpractices#group_operations>,
>>  
>> if you are not already doing so.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Josh, AdWords API Team
>>
>> On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 11:31:11 AM UTC-4, João Aparício wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Josh,
>>>
>>> No, that doesn't work. The unexpected_internal_api_error happens 
>>> repeatedly (even though, like I said, some times the bidding strategy IS 
>>> changed even though an error is thrown), and retrying doesn't help.
>>>
>>> What did help was lowering the number of operations in the mutate chunk 
>>> from 500 to 100. Now it seems to be going on without errors.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 15, 2015 at 11:54:09 PM UTC, Josh Radcliff (AdWords API 
>>> Team) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Joao,
>>>>
>>>> An *UNEXPECTED_INTERNAL_API_ERROR* is, as you suspected, often due to 
>>>> a timeout occurring while we process your request.
>>>>
>>>> As a general rule, you should implement error handling and retry logic 
>>>> as specified in our best practices guide 
>>>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/bestpractices#error_handling>,
>>>>  
>>>> since timeouts of this sort are bound to happen eventually on a small 
>>>> percentage of requests. Usually retrying such a request after waiting a 
>>>> few 
>>>> seconds will result in a successful request.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Josh, AdWords API Team
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, March 15, 2015 at 12:37:51 PM UTC-4, João Aparício wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is happening some times:
>>>>>
>>>>>         Server raised fault: 
>>>>> 'InternalApiError.UNEXPECTED_INTERNAL_API_ERROR @ 
>>>>> com.google.ads.api.services.common.error.InternalApiError.<init>(InternalApiErro'
>>>>>
>>>>> The python code is
>>>>>
>>>>>         adgroup_service = client.GetService('AdGroupService', 
>>>>> version='v201409')
>>>>>         adgroup_operations = [{
>>>>>                      'operator':'SET',
>>>>>                      'operand': {
>>>>>                         'xsi_type':'AdGroup',
>>>>>                         'id':adgroupid,
>>>>>                         'biddingStrategyConfiguration': {
>>>>>                           'biddingStrategyId': strategy_id
>>>>>                         }
>>>>>                      }
>>>>>                     } for text_sorted,acc_id,adgroupid,kw_id in chunk]
>>>>>         logger.info('%s %s mutating bidstrategy %s operations' % 
>>>>> (n,acc_id,len(adgroup_operations)) )
>>>>>         r = adgroup_service.mutate(adgroup_operations)
>>>>>
>>>>> The things that is strange here is the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> A) Whether this code throws an error or not depends on the account. 
>>>>> For some accounts it always throws an error, for other accounts it never 
>>>>> throws an error.
>>>>> B) For the accounts where an error is thrown, most of the times the 
>>>>> adgroup biddingstrategies ARE mutated! My issue here is that mutates 
>>>>> where 
>>>>> an error is thrown are really slow (I assume due to some sort of internal 
>>>>> timeout?)
>>>>>
>>>>> Some guidance would be very useful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Joao
>>>>>
>>>>>

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