On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 03:02:18PM +0000, Martyn Taylor wrote: > On 02/01/2013 02:50 PM, Martin Povolny wrote: > > > >Also there are things such as Sencha Touch and other mobile web > >frameworks that can be used w/o reinventing the wheel. > > Thing like Sencha Touch and JQuery mobile offer libraries for creating > standard elements and mobile type pages using js and html5. converge ui is > more about creating a uniform style and look and feel across projects such > as katello and conductor and builds on top of things like standard jquery.
Sorry Martyn but what you are writing is simply not true. Sencha Touch [1] and JQuery mobile [2] are libraries that provide (beside other benefits) a set of mobile-optimised components -- optimized and tested on/for small devices. These can be compared to Sencha ExtJS and SmartClient in the desktop web world. Your description "offer libraries for creating standard elements" fits to plain JQuery, Sencha ExtJS Core and other libraries. To get a uniform look and feel, you can use the theming capabilities of JQuery Mobile and/or Sencha Touch. Both seem to be strong in this aspect. Also worth attention is the fact that while mobile web framework generally use JavaScript a lot, Alchemy (Converge UI) tries to work w/o JavaScript which might be seen as swimming against the stream on mobile platforms. With all respect to Alchemy, to support the mobile web in the way comparable to JQuery Mobile and Sencha Touch a huge effort would be needed. This is just to get facts right before jumping into something. > > > >I would love if we could concentrate more on getting things done rather > >than splitting forces between more and projects. > > I would say given that we would like to create mobile applications like > Jeremy and Angus suggested, then having a uniform look and feel across the > many possible applications would > > a) make development easier > b) make it look like it fits in with the the rest of Aeolus projects, like > conductor and Katello. > That is surely true. But writing own mobile web toolkit is IMHO not the way to get there in a reasonable time with a justifiable effort. We should pick an existing solution and just style it to fit our would-like-to-have uniform look and feel. [1] http://cdn.sencha.io/touch/sencha-touch-2.1.0/examples/kitchensink/index.html [2] http://jquerymobile.com/demos/1.2.0/docs/about/features.html -- Martin Povolny <[email protected]> tel. +420777714458
