Re: ' The group may simply be the buddies of a sick person who is suffering a mental disturbance and afflicted with imaginary fantasies or deluded illusions that are real enough but that he wrongly considers as factual and actual and concrete. '
This sounds like something out of '1984'. 'You don't really hate jazz; you are suffering from a mental disturbance.' DA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frances Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Music and all that jazz Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:47:37 -0400 > Frances to Derek and Boris and others... > > In regard to the eventual yet tentative determination of > art, the overall term might better be "collective > community of normal experts" although in some venues the > agreed opinion of any relevant "learned group of normal > experts" might be appropriate. The group may simply be the > buddies of a sick person who is suffering a mental > disturbance and afflicted with imaginary fantasies or > deluded illusions that are real enough but that he wrongly > considers as factual and actual and concrete. It then > falls to his group of normal friends to correct him, by > assuring him of his hallucinatory errors. This is why the > individual person alone is unreliable to confer the status > of art on an object or to determine the very being of art > at all. Within the realm of art, its normal determining > experts might include a group made up of artists, artisans > , aesthetes, aestheticians, reviewers, historians, > teachers, collectors, curators, restorers, archivists, > authors, and so on. This process of communal determination > furthermore seems to be prevalent in science, and it has > therefore likely been originally prepared as such for > science by art itself. > > > > Derek partly wrote... > > Frances is not talking about artists. She is talking about > some group of wise persons somewhere who decide what art > is. She occasionally refers to these mysterious learned > persons but will never say who they are. Not even what > continent they live on.
