I thought  Mando was simply saying that a ptg. made from a photo may include 
all the details -- which the lens captured at the same moment.  But ptg. from 
life, one could not paint a shadow, and then another and another, without 
painting them at different moments (and thus in different perspectives or 
color, etc.) I didn't take his remark as a value judgment but as a way to note 
the likelihood of a work having been made from a photo.  

For a really strange arrangement of shadows, see G. Seurat's Grande Jatte...and 
his little preparatory panels for that picture, one of which is the landscape 
with only shadows, no figures.  But Seurat was placing shadows for design and 
expression, not to record nature.

WC


--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Chris Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Chris Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Photography and the artworld
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 3:51 PM
> Mando,  why are you warning  everyone to "Just be on
> the lookout for frozen
> shadows in art called paintings." ?
> 
> Would there be something wrong with the taste of a person
> who didn't feel that
> way at all? Aren't you always telling us that taste is
> entirely subjective ?
> 
> 
> BTW -- if you feel that paintings done from photographs
> have "frozen shadows"
> -- what about the photographs themselves ?  Do you feel
> that their shadows
> "frozen" ?
> 
> .
> 
> 
> 
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