Re if aesthetics has anything to do with valuing. I suggest Marc Hauser's book, Moral Minds, Yale, 2006. Hauser is aother Harvard prof., probably a dope, too.
WC --- On Sat, 12/20/08, Geoff <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Geoff <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Geoff, Neurology and "Art" > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 4:43 PM > Cheerskep and Luc: Whether I read Luc's note too quickly > or not, I didn't > perceive it as so scornful, though I do appreciate your > attending to his > attitude Cheerskep. > > I think that much of the problem may involve my efforts to > cling to a > certain definition of science (and Cheerskep seems to be > with me on this). > Others may be equating learning or studying with science. > The scientific > method is only one narrow method of learning. I fully > expect that Cheerskep > would join with me in approving the pursuit and products of > learning. The > achievements of neuroscience are impressive and most > valuable, as well as > not being frightening. If aesthetics has to do primarily > with valuing then I > don't understand how neuroscience will have > contributions to make. If > aesthetics involves understanding sensing and perceiving, > then, of course, > neursocience will have immensely valuable contributions to > make and has > already made such contributions. > Geoff C > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 2:09 PM > Subject: Re: Geoff, Neurology and "Art" > > > > In a message dated 12/20/08 12:46:55 PM, > [email protected] writes: > > > > > >> Luc to Geoff: > >> Where have you been in the last 20 years? > >> > > And where you have you been for the last month? The > neurology that has > > been > > championed on the forum has been based on the > assumption that examining > > brain > > tissue material will yield useful and enlightening > things about the > > creation > > and appreciation of "art". (And about how > "consciousness" -- which some of > > us > > persist in considering a non-material entity -- can > "arise from" that > > neural > > tissue.) > > > > Geoff and I have posted extensive messages detailing > why we say we haven't > > seen evidence of neurology's having achieved > anything like this. (E.g. my > > posting on Zeki.) Either you haven't read those > postings, or you've read > > them with > > nothing like what I'd call > "understanding". > > > > But what really has moved me to write this posting is > your tone toward > > Geoff. > > It is a combination of sarcasm and condescension that > is particularly > > odious > > when it comes from one who clearly lacks worthy mental > acuity and yet who > > smugly believes he has it.. > > > > > > ************** > > One site keeps you connected to all > > your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it > now. > > > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025)
