In a message dated 3/4/09 12:55:52 PM, [email protected] writes:

> There is no procedure for testing  the existence of good art.
>
Look hard and you'll see most of my effort is aimed against the indefensibly
foggy notion behind "Good art exists". You can, as Bruce Attah was unwittingly
doing, putting together (an actually fairly smart!) stipulative definition of
"good art" -- that is, he was listing the characteristics that, if found in a
object, would move him to call it "art". (His definition was such that if it
isn't "good", it isn't "art". His biggest problem was he didn't realize that
all he could possibly achieve would be to say, "This is what I call art."
Instead, he took the unwinnable position that he was describing what art IS.
(Attah: "This definition is unbreakable, and it is only
eighteen words long! I just sewed up and finished off and, worse, showed to
be mainly misguided,
roughly a century's worth of theorising about the "meaning of art" in about
a hundred lines of text. You people probably thought you had another century
of fun to go on that one. Sorry people, but it had to be done. My deepest
sympathies go to the Weitzians. The bottom has just dropped out of their
world.")

Chrsis adds: "Can't we all cease appealing to the "the normal uses of
language?)"

To which Michael responds:
"Why? Do you have a disagreement with "the normal uses of language"?

But, Michael, we've now had about a hundred fifteen years of philosophy of
language prompted by the inherent fogginess of "normal uses of language".
(Alas,
most of that technical, ABnormal discussion is even more foggy.)






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