The human figure had the same essence five thousand years ago as today.
but may be represented in endless ways. So are colors and form. Actually,
all things of nature are timeless, although evolving and also changing.
In reference to art, timelessness is preferable to the narrow parochial.
mando
On Apr 25, 2009, at 6:47 PM, Saul Ostrow wrote:

Different era's have thought different qualities were timeless - so no timeless to one era is not timeless to another - your confusing tradition with timeless - the nude and colors are not prescribed as universals per se just constants - in that color is used to very different ends over the course of history and so is the representation of the human figure - consequently they are universals on the most reductive level because they subscribe to no
particular standards, criteria, or values

On 4/25/09 9:04 PM, "armando baeza" <[email protected]> wrote:

Timelessness refers to all periods equally, no? The more gadgets we
include
in art, the more difficult art gets. That's why i stay with the and nude
body.
And Congers stays with color and form and Boris stays with nature, I
think.

mando

On Apr 25, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Saul Ostrow wrote:

Or inversely it has come to be associated with some other periods
sense of
timelessness


On 4/25/09 2:19 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

In a message dated 4/25/09 1:46:57 PM, [email protected] writes:


Whether art, local or universal, only depicts the historically
personal,
without a sense of timelessness it's place will remain just
historical.



Presumably that means that some historically personal portraits which
continue to be accepted as art have some aspect of "timelessness".
Kate Sullivan



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