actually I have  personal creative experiences all the time - - but  they are
neither natural or spiritual -  it is this that lead to my question: what
makes you think art was ever anything other than a  carefully crafted
artifice meant to pull in its audience

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Saul Ostrow | Visual Arts & Technologies Environment Chair, Sculpture
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From: armando baeza [[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 2:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: armando baeza
Subject: Re: Heidegger and Singularity

This remark ,means that you have never had personal creative experience.
Other wise, you would know why humans are creative by nature, and never
ask "why'.
mando

On Apr 25, 2009, at 9:22 AM, Saul Ostrow wrote:

> And
>
>
> On 4/25/09 11:54 AM, "Chris Miller" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> What if art self-reflexively addresses by aesthetic  and rhetorical
> means
> the
> conceptions and values most prevalent with in the time of its
> making within a
> recursive framework ?
>
> Then we get a typical Hollywood movie - carefully crafted to pull
> in a large
> audience.
>
> I've just been watching a bunch of recent Westerns that came highly
> recommended to me -- and it was just too painful to watch each of them
> address
> the conceptions and values most prevalent in our time and place.
> (and  don't
> forget about place. The conceptions and values of Americans are quite
> different from people who now live in India, Europe, Africa, or
> even Canada)
>
> Only one film had any value to me, "The Assassination of Jesse
> James by the
> Coward Robert Ford", because it seemed to be addressing universal
> issues of
> trust, betrayal, and maturity - as might be found in the 12th C.
> Chinese
> "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" as well )
> While it also tried to re-create a language and dramatic space
> somewhat
> removed from our own (Missouri, 1880)
>
> That was a good movie - perhaps the best Western since "Dead Man".
>
>
>
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>
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