I probable missed reading your complete meaning,as I read it now. Otherwise I stand with my statement'
What makes sense to one is hard enough to express. So why even waste time trying to please every one else. mand Mr. Mago wrote: >> Why share something that >> merely 'makes sense to me' if you don't think it would 'make sense to >> everyone'? On Sep 15, 2009, at 12:57 PM, imago Asthetik wrote: > Who said anything about pleasing anyone else Mr Baeza? And when > was 'Right' > every easy? > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 2:50 PM, armando baeza > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> What makes sense to one is hard enough to express. >> So why even waste time trying to please every one else. >> mando >> >> >> On Sep 15, 2009, at 10:28 AM, imago Asthetik wrote: >> >> It has always been the job of priests to establish, protect, and >> interpret >>>> the >>>> canon - or, actually, every priesthood has its own, and it's one >>>> Rand's >>>> virtues that she is oblivious to them all, unless, as she did with >>>> Aristotle, >>>> she finds something that makes sense to her. >>>> >>>> >>> I am not sure this is (1) true, or (2) relevant. >>> >>> Viz 1: There have always been great libraries, so it is simply >>> not correct >>> to think that the canon = religiously protected/sanctioned >>> documents, nor >>> that the canon is not contested, or contestable as a matter of >>> scholarly >>> 'intramural' discussion. >>> >>> Viz 2: if one is oblivious to a tradition it is very difficult >>> for me to >>> see >>> how one can engage in any kind of rigorous discussion, debate, or >>> argument. >>> After all, *rejecting* the canon is not the same as being >>> *oblivious* to >>> it. one can be oblivious *and* agree with the canon, just as one >>> can be >>> well versed *and* disagree with it. What is important, I take >>> it, is how >>> well grounded one's reasons are for one's positions. To me, the >>> question >>> is >>> one of productiveness: who would I prefer to discuss matters with? >>> >>> Again, simply because something "makes sense to her" does not >>> make it >>> compelling, right-headed, or even interesting. Why share >>> something that >>> merely 'makes sense to me' if you don't think it would 'make >>> sense to >>> everyone'? and if it could possibly make sense to others, why not >>> actually >>> present it in a full-blown, persuasive argument, which is >>> sensitive to >>> tradition and history? >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Chris Miller >>> <[email protected] >>>> wrote: >>> >>> "Art is a selective re-creation of reality according to an artist's >>>> metaphysical value judgments" (Ayn Rand) >>>> >>>> That definition fits any art at all, except it uses the term >>>>> metaphysical, >>>>> >>>> rather odd for an Objectivist. (William Conger) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ................................................................... >>>> .......... >>>> ................................................................. >>>> >>>> Does it really fit *any* art at all? Aren't there some artists >>>> who are >>>> more >>>> interested creating a new reality, rather than re-creating what is >>>> already >>>> there? Haven't some of them succeeded? >>>> >>>> Her defintion may have problems, but what is admirable is that >>>> at least >>>> she >>>> presents one and sticks to it. >>>> >>>> Does anyone else here have a definition of art that he would >>>> like to >>>> present? >>>> >>>> Regarding the term 'metaphysical', Rand presents Objectivism as one >>>> among >>>> many different kinds of metaphysics. She may advocate it as the >>>> best, >>>> but >>>> she >>>> still allows that others. indeed, most of humanity, prefers >>>> something >>>> else. >>>> >>>> It seems to me that she is rather oblivious to what actually >>>> constitutes >>>>> >>>> the >>>> canon (Imago Asthetik) >>>> >>>> Correct. >>>> >>>> It has always been the job of priests to establish, protect, and >>>> interpret >>>> the >>>> canon - or, actually, every priesthood has its own, and it's one >>>> Rand's >>>> virtues that she is oblivious to them all, unless, as she did with >>>> Aristotle, >>>> she finds something that makes sense to her. >>>> >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here! >>>> >>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/ >>>> BLSrjnxRO9r2edGl0d43nsUC9YN7J8 >>>> VM2LTpTT6Ezel1058GLQRc8bhAXYk/<http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/ >>>> TGL2231/fc/BLSrjnxRO9r2edGl0d43nsUC9YN7J8% >>>> 0AVM2LTpTT6Ezel1058GLQRc8bhAXYk/>
