To exist is to be real, is it not. A design that never existed before
and is made, by a
human. Isn't that an extension of nature in our universe, slowly
evolving forward like
everything else in the universe. I'm still not clear on that point .
mando
On Sep 15, 2009, at 5:06 PM, William Conger wrote:
No, because I define reality to be The Reality, I mean the physical
universe, whether or not we know it and whether or not our
representations of it are correct. Art, insofar as it is physical,
including the people who experience it and name it, is part of that
reality, which has an infinitude of presentations or cases. To say
that art constitutes a "new reality" is simply a figure of speech,
meant to suggest it is different from older art, or that such and
such art is a new representation of reality.
wc
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From: armando baeza <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: armando baeza <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:39:21 PM
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand: Romantic Manifesto : Conclusion
Do you mean that Art is not a new primary reality that exists?
mando
On Sep 15, 2009, at 3:01 PM, William Conger wrote:
Since reality exists as the primary premise, even for
Objectivists, any re-creation of it necessarily derives from it.
There can be only one reality, with an infinitude of cases.
Anything else us unreality. So to answer your questions: No, and no.
wc
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From: Chris Miller <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:19:43 AM
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand: Romantic Manifesto : Conclusion
"Art is a selective re-creation of reality according to an artist's
metaphysical value judgments" (Ayn Rand)
That definition fits any art at all, except it uses the term
metaphysical,
rather odd for an Objectivist. (William Conger)
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Does it really fit *any* art at all? Aren't there some artists
who are more
interested creating a new reality, rather than re-creating what is
already
there? Haven't some of them succeeded?
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