I'm referring to say, thirty different abstract expressions of  the human
form,
all, not so abstract that they can suggest something else,or even if
some do 
 stand for some thing else. 
Is that not the essence of the human in
a different form?

AB


________________________________
 From: William Conger
<[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday,
August 16, 2012 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: Can art continue to exist without an
aesthetic criteria?
 
Essence: It's not there.  You can't put a ribbon around
it.  You can't send it 
to your friend.

You can't say it's shared by all
humans because you can't test all humans for 
it...or any human for that
matter.

But...you can name anything at all as the essence of something.  It's
a value 
judgment, except in the few cases where the word serves as a
scientific term 
denoting a particular, measurable substance of condition of a
substance.
wc


----- Original Message ----
From: armandobaeza
<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: armandobaeza
<[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, August 16, 2012 6:12:07 PM
Subject: Re: Can
art continue to exist without an aesthetic criteria?

There is an "is-ness" as
you call It, an essence to the recognition shared by
all humans , and that
recognition is by  it's "essence' regardless of it's
color
shape/age/ or
gender. Where am I wrong.?

ab

On Aug 16, 2012, at 2:56 PM, [email protected]
wrote:

> In a message dated 8/16/12 5:41:46 PM, [email protected]
writes:
>
>
>>> Here's a nice rule to settle certain disputes. "I stipulate if
it's in
>>> Webster's Third it's a word."
>>
>> What about "foopgoom"?
>>
>> I
know you're aware that the point of my last was to lampoon those who
> think
by "stipulating" they can affect the ontic status of anything (except,
>
perhaps, the ontic status of the stipulation, the utterance).
>
> You may see
ink on paper, but you've never seen a "word" in your life. Or
> heard one.
"Foopgoom!" Did you just hear a word? How would you tell? Run to
> your little
dictionary? The latest ones have lots of "new words". But
they're
> only
sounds they've at last decided to call "words". What was their
> "is-ness"
before?
>
> You know about "is-ness" -- that fictitious "essence" thing that
some
> people believe makes an object not just what you call it, but what it
"really
> IS". Problem: "is-nesses" -- including "wordness" -- are mental
inventions,
> purely notional, like unicorns. And "souls".
>
> Did you ever
wonder how some lucky sounds get to become "words", while
> other sounds have
to remain "sounds-second-class" until a bell rings? I'll
tell
> you.
>
> One
summer in Switzerland, I found a thing in my room that I called a
>
'foopgoom'. I thought it was so apt a label, I put my case to Plato and his
>
word-and-thing certification-committee way up there. In their meeting last
>
Thursday, they officially declared "foopgoom" to be a real word! And they
made
it
> official by ringing a big bell they call the verbell! That Swiss object
now
> really IS a foopgoom!
>
> If your response is to say that that's a bad
joke, my reply will be:
> "ISN'T it!"

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