if you work hard enough you'll get ahead - subsequently everyone who is
poor is because the do not make the effort, and are living with your parent
at 30 and your evangelical - its becasue god is punishing all but those who
are saved - or someone underserving like those catholic mexicans and
buddhist asian, and those muslim mid easterners have stilen it from you

On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 4:33 PM, William Conger <[email protected]>wrote:

> The idea that grace is complemented with wealth is an old one and I wonder
> if
> it's still believed and preached?
>
> wc
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: saul ostrow <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sat, August 18, 2012 3:12:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Subjective - Objective
>
> One I guest may generality extends to the rest of the world - and I think
> that the logic of capital is punitive - or at least the Darwinistic version
> that has developed in the Protestant world - in which grace is measured by
> wealth
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 3:10 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 8/18/12 1:25:45 PM, [email protected] writes:
> >
> >
> > > I would like to point out that we are not all created equal and that
> most
> > > of us are further penalized for not only race, gender, and class but
> also
> > > for education and ability - seemingly the deck is stacked against most
> of
> > > us
> > >
> > 'Penalized' is the wrong word.
> >
> > I'd suggest that 'restricted' might be better here, but even that is too
> > gloomy, too focussed on the morose possibilities in life. Freud had an
> > interesting phrase: "Anatomy is destiny." I won't try to grapple with
> what
> > he
> > had
> > in mind in the essay where the phrase appears, because he too focusses on
> > the
> > bleak.
> >
> > The fact is we can also be ADVANTAGED by anatomy. We see that regularly
> in
> > great athletes. We see the advantages of an attractive appearance, a
> strong
> > immune system, of stamina mental and physical. The many aspects of high
> > intelligence are the lucky advantages of anatomy within our skulls.
> >
> > Don't reply by pointing out that many athletes, entertainers, and smart,
> > healthy, rich folks have been "unhappy". That would trend toward saying
> > none
> > of us has a chance to be contented. And it would be as unconvincing a
> > response as asserting that no black female born into a poor family has
> ever
> > eventually led a satisfying "happy" life.
> >
> > The sweeping "seemingly the deck is stacked against most of us" is too
> > morbid a generalization. And, without qualification it's useless. It
> > becomes
> > useful for many when it's modified to something like   "seemingly the
> deck
> > is
> > stacked against most of those who elect to forego higher education".
> There
> > are many things that are beyond our electing for ourselves -- being
> taller,
> > smarter, impervious to germs. But some things yield to effort, and to
> > abandon
> > effort because of a belief "the cards are stacked against me" is
> > self-confirming pessimism.
> >
> >
>
>
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