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On Feb 9, 2013, at 6:02 AM, William Conger wrote:

> All this talk about kids and what and how they learn and whether or not it
is
> practical is not interesting beyond the level of magazine articles.  Yes,
kids
> learn differently (see Gardiner's Multiple Intelligences) and yes, except
for
> the privileged children the the very rich, they need to find ways to be
useful
> in society.  There are, obviously, many ways to do that.  On a forum like
this,
> with many artists and other creatives on board, it's not going to be easy to
> argue against nurturing kids' imaginations.
>
> As a youngster who only cared about art I never gave a moment's thought to
how I
> would survive as an artist or at all when I grew up, despite the
consternation,
> worry and hand-wringing of Depression-era parents.  And I always had a
part-time
> job from the age of thirteen until college and after college I never was one
day
> without a job until age seventy.  Even now I work every day and earn money
with
> my art.  Without inheritance I was able to raise a family and live pretty
well
> and give my kids debt free educations at top schools.  Maybe I was just
lucky
> yet I do believe people should pay their own ways and, if they need to, earn
> whatever is required to do what they want.
>
> So, it's a blend of following one's own drummer while also being useful to
> society that make the most sense in a democratic capitalistic society.
> Education curricula and societal ideals should provide for both.  What's
more
> annoying than a society that degrades imagination and creativity for the
sake of
> emphasizing routine job skills? And what's more demoralizing than people who
> think their uniqueness and so-called free-spirit creativity entitles them to
be
> fully supported on a public dole?
> wc
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: joseph berg <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sat, February 9, 2013 3:41:08 AM
> Subject: Re: Skills children learn from the arts
>
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 11:37 PM, joseph berg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Lew Schwartz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Even more annoying about tripe like this is the presumption that everyone
>>> agrees on the same achieve/success/money definition of education. It's
>>> enraging. What happened to personal fulfillment, insight or joy?
>>>
>> They've become unaffordable luxuries for more and more people in the
>> 21st-c.
>>
>
>
> - Some people see things that are and ask, Why?  Some people dream of thing
> that never were and ask, Why not?  Some people have to go to work and don't
> have time for all that.
>
> George Carlin

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