Most of time is all spent on the love of what I do best...Sculpture ab
On Feb 9, 2013, at 10:27 AM, saul ostrow wrote: > so you made art for consumption? > > *CriticalPractice* > 21 TREET PROJECTS > La Table Ronde > 162 West 21 Street > NYC, NY 10011 > > [email protected] > www.21stprojects.org > > > On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 1:07 PM, armando baeza <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Story of my life, >> ab >> >> On Feb 9, 2013, at 6:02 AM, William Conger wrote: >> >>> All this talk about kids and what and how they learn and whether or not >> it >> is >>> practical is not interesting beyond the level of magazine articles. Yes, >> kids >>> learn differently (see Gardiner's Multiple Intelligences) and yes, except >> for >>> the privileged children the the very rich, they need to find ways to be >> useful >>> in society. There are, obviously, many ways to do that. On a forum like >> this, >>> with many artists and other creatives on board, it's not going to be >> easy to >>> argue against nurturing kids' imaginations. >>> >>> As a youngster who only cared about art I never gave a moment's thought >> to >> how I >>> would survive as an artist or at all when I grew up, despite the >> consternation, >>> worry and hand-wringing of Depression-era parents. And I always had a >> part-time >>> job from the age of thirteen until college and after college I never was >> one >> day >>> without a job until age seventy. Even now I work every day and earn >> money >> with >>> my art. Without inheritance I was able to raise a family and live pretty >> well >>> and give my kids debt free educations at top schools. Maybe I was just >> lucky >>> yet I do believe people should pay their own ways and, if they need to, >> earn >>> whatever is required to do what they want. >>> >>> So, it's a blend of following one's own drummer while also being useful >> to >>> society that make the most sense in a democratic capitalistic society. >>> Education curricula and societal ideals should provide for both. What's >> more >>> annoying than a society that degrades imagination and creativity for the >> sake of >>> emphasizing routine job skills? And what's more demoralizing than people >> who >>> think their uniqueness and so-called free-spirit creativity entitles >> them to >> be >>> fully supported on a public dole? >>> wc >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: joseph berg <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Sat, February 9, 2013 3:41:08 AM >>> Subject: Re: Skills children learn from the arts >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 11:37 PM, joseph berg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Lew Schwartz <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Even more annoying about tripe like this is the presumption that >> everyone >>>>> agrees on the same achieve/success/money definition of education. It's >>>>> enraging. What happened to personal fulfillment, insight or joy? >>>>> >>>> They've become unaffordable luxuries for more and more people in the >>>> 21st-c. >>>> >>> >>> >>> - Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of >> thing >>> that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and >> don't >>> have time for all that. >>> >>> George Carlin
