I gotta go back and read Lessing again.  The Laocoon group always struck me as
wildly emotional, a great example of late Hellenistic.  I've seen it, too, and
was shocked that its a rather small sculpture in actuality whereas it always
looks so big in photos.  There has been an ongoing debate as to the real
configuation of the original, since it was found with crucial pieces missing.
 Maybe that debate is now resolved but I do recall seeing models of at least
three plausible arrangements of the original fragments. 

Delacroix was really
engaged in trying to realize the moment of heightened emotion by implication
more than expression.  He wanted to take it to the point where the actual
full-blast emotion would occur in the viewer (who vicariously imagines the
next moment suggested by his painting) but not depicted in the actual
painting. Although his Lion Hunt pictures seem to go the full way.
wc
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Lessing is quoted as saying that the reason
for the Laocoon's
relatively peaceful expression was that any violence of
expression
would have been unaesthetic,which is some jump to a conclusion.
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I always try to make something beautiful and
often do, for me.   I do
think
it's impossible to make something beautiful on
demand.  So, no
guarantees.
wc
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Conger
wrote:  But in art it's often presumed
that artworks, of
whatever medium, are
made
> as
> well as they can be made,
serving, presumably some higher,
"aesthetic"
> goal or
> purpose.  By 'made' I
mean also 'express'.    Does
aesthetic
experience
> require a notion of the
best, of the best, aiming at
the best, of the
> highest
> order, as well is it
can be, etc., even if no one
knows beforehand
what
> might
> exemplify the
best as a state of mind?

It has
often been said that if you try to make
"something Beautiful"
you won't.

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