I used to be able to answer the office phone before it rang.  I could hear the 
sounds of the electromechanical switchboard through the door of the central 
office.  After a few years your ear starts to learn the patterns of the dialed 
numbers automatically.  Of course, the last four digits were 2211 which were 
very easy to spot.  I could tell when my wife was getting a call.  2777  That 
freaked her out.  

From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 3:07 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Nixie tubes

I am, but when you talk about listening to the phone relays you just sound so 
old.... 
You know, not young and hip like us cool cats! Oh wait, now I sound old.

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:04 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  Pretty sure you are right up there with me...

  From: Lewis Bergman 
  Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 2:59 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Nixie tubes

  Chuck is so old

  On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 3:13 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

    If I had nothing but time, I would build a relay based finite state machine 
to be the calculator.
    It would probably take a relay rack or two of relays.  Even super tiny pcb 
mount relays would take some considerable room when you are chaining up half 
adders etc.  

    I think some guy did this and built an 8080 CPU with relays.  

    Back when I was considerably younger I enjoyed the sound of a North 
Electric relay panel interrogating a phone line to figure which person on the 
party line was making the call and then sending the digits via MF tones.  You 
could diagnose the health of the machine by the sounds.  

    From: Dave 
    Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 1:38 PM
    To: af@af.afmug.com 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Nixie tubes

    Dont get too complex until you have a functional calculator :)

    Sounds like a fun project vs my Galaga upright arcade restoration :)
    I also came across some Gas Filled 4x12" Displays that are dot matrix.
    They use 94V to power the Element.




    On 07/21/2018 04:04 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

      Yes, I just found a source of old typewriter keys.  I think I will 
connect them to microswitches for a nice tactile feedback.  

      Analog volt meter showing the capacitor voltage.  Will probably need a 
voltage doubler to get up to the 180 volts needed for the nixie tubes.  

      Things start to dim, crank the crank a few turns.  
      Do I want to use cloth covered wire and solder terminal sockets.  At some 
point PCBs will have to be used.  So I will probably get lazy and make a PCB 
for everything.  

      Be fun to have some kind of mechanical annunciator showing the sign of 
the exponent.  

      Prepper calculator.  (Probably a raspberry pi in its heart).  

      Maybe use a telephone ringer bell to announce the result.  I could add 
some delay with the nixie tubes scrolling through the digits and one by one 
stopping on the digits of the solution.  

      From: Chuck Macenski 
      Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 2:50 PM
      To: af@af.afmug.com 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Nixie tubes

      Old silver and black typewriter keys. Think Enigma machine...

      On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 3:28 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

        I must be nuts.  
        I am working on a calculator project that uses nixie tubes for a 
display.

        I want to use a telephone magneto to charge up a cap to run the thing.  
        Kinda a steam punk RPN HP type of calculator.
        I am stuck on what to use for buttons.  I am thinking elevator buttons.

        Large oak case.  Just crank it for 10 seconds and then do  your 
calculation.

        I am also conflicted as to how many buttons.  
        Square and square root for sure.  
        Undecided about log, trig functions and whether or not to have 
scientific notation.  I think I will.  
        How many digits to display?  Probably 5.  Engineering mode only.  3 dot 
2 display.  
        Also considering multiple lines to show 4 levels of the stack but I 
doubt I will actually do that.  

        The question is: will I ever finish this thing?
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