You can always request a jury trial. Even for the tiniest cases except small
claims court.
From: CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 1:55 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium
true, but they're also requesting a jury trial. not sure that would come into
play unless the case were moved up to higher courts?
i guess a lawyer defending could argue a decision made in a prior case
basically saying it were preempted...
but if that were truly the case, why would anyone be putting license agreements
on anything anymore?
wow, this sure has drummed up some list traffic. lol.
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From: Mike Hammett
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium
That's only relevant if the government hasn't already preempted what UBNT is
requiring.
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The Brothers WISP
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From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 2:46:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium
oh yes they are. the agreement itself tells the user what they can and can't
do. the lawsuit is saying cambium violated that agreement by changing the
code, etc, and even using / reusing some of the same code. and replacing the
copyright with cambium's copyright, lots of little things adding up.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mathew Howard
To: AFMUG
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium
Unless the radio is old enough that it came with firmware that didn't have
that feature...
But they're saying that Cambium is specifically instructing people to
accept the agreement, and then violate the terms. They don't appear to be going
after anyone so much for violating the agreement, but rather for telling other
people to violate the agreement.
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 2:34 PM CBB - Jay Fuller
<par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
they're saying you have to accept the license agreement to access a radio
to even change software.
they are right - - unless you use tftp recovery. you don't have to do
that on a dell computer.
----- Original Message -----
From: Adam Moffett
To: af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium
Dell isn't harmed when you install Linux on your computer.
Likewise I don't see how Ubiquiti is harmed when you install Elevate.
Someone has to spell out the difference for me.
On 8/10/2018 2:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
so - assuming they are held liable and have to pay damages
how much do ya'll estimate they've made from elevate?
now, don't get me wrong, i have a soft spot for both companies.
they've both made me a lot of money.
i hate to see them doing this - - but i fully see ubnt's point of
view too.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mathew Howard
To: AFMUG
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium
Cambium is not publicly traded... unless something has changed
recently.
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 1:30 PM CBB - Jay Fuller
<par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
wasn't aware cambium was publically traded?
----- Original Message -----
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium
Or short Cambium.... you never know.
MoviePass is selling at 5.1 cents per share right now.
Or 20 milli cents in pre split dollars. Millipennys? Money
is metric, right?
In other words, I bought at 60 cents and it is now at 0.020
cents...
From: Tyson Burris
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 12:19 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium
Looks like its time to short the hell of UBNT stock. I don’t
see a lawsuit as a favorable to WISP opinions. Dragging WISPs and Vendors into
it is very sticky.
Could end up being negative.
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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 12:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium
https://www.fcc.gov/news-events/blog/2015/11/12/clearing-air-wi-fi-software-updates
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From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 9:31:29 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium
https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/posts/1660546944070751
Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. sues Cambium Networks.
https://www.law360.com/articles/1071813/wireless-co-ubiquiti-says-rival-sells-hacking-firmware
I'd like to see more of the claims.
They've also sued Sakid Ahmed and Dmitry Moiseev of Cambium.
They've sued WINNCOM TECHNOLOGIES, CORP..
They've sued BLIP Networks, a WISP in southern Illinois.
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