My guess will be they are going for an injunction asap probably in Texas
and hoping the injunction does all the necessary damage. It's what you
do when you are watching something happen in a little way that implies
something much worse about to happen.
On 8/10/18 10:52 AM, David Coudron wrote:
I guess when reading this, the thing that strikes me the most is how
inflated and exaggerative the language is. Typically it seems in legal
documents that overly exaggerative claims are done so for publicity.
The language in this filing seems to read more like National Enquirer
and less like an FCC findings summary. I would expect this to be less
outlandish if they really felt they had a strong case. Claiming a
multi-party hacking conspiracy (which is really what the complaint is
claiming from what I can discern) is going to be really tough to make
stick. Claiming Cambium caused harm to their business due to copyright
violation would be a much better approach I would think. But they seem
to have taken the National Enquirer approach, usually when you hear
those kinds of things, they don’t go anywhere. It will be interesting
to see what happens.
As far as the FCC violation goes, they were more careful in their
wording. To my understanding, they basically said that hacking the
firmware gives someone the ability to violate FCC limits and doesn’t
imply that they can prove anyone actually did.
Could be they felt that they were compelled to file this case whether
they feel they can win or not…..
Smarter folks than me will sort it all out…. 😊
Regards,
David Coudron
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of * Ryan Ray
*Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 12:42 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium
They named a forum user as a defendant...
" 126. In a post dated December 25, 2017, Defendant Dmitry—noted as an
“occasional contributor”—posted on a message board instructing a user on
how to use ePMP with Ubiquiti power supplies"
This whole thing feels like a big joke. Do we not own the hardware we're
purchasing?
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com
<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yeah, so they aren't actually suing the WISP because they were using
it, they're suing them because they're saying they helped market it.
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 12:27 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Case study\testimonial.
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*From: *ja...@remotelylocated.com <mailto:ja...@remotelylocated.com>
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Sent: *Friday, August 10, 2018 12:24:56 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium
How does UBNT know that the WISP in question is actually using
the product? Did they gain access to the carriers network to
verify? With out them knowing? Other than that it is all hearsay.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 10, 2018, at 10:18 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
A juror who was an existing Cambium or UBNT customer might
have a pre-existing bias and ought to be removed.
.....not that I know anything about it. Not really my
department.
On 8/10/2018 1:15 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
the jury isn't going to have a clue what you're talking
about. in fact, they're not going to understand most of
the techno babble.
unless they manage to land a juror who has run cambium
or ubnt gear, that is going to be irrelevant...
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*From:*Robert Andrews <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>
*To:*af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
*Sent:*Friday, August 10, 2018 10:11 AM
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium
So much for being the winner by disruption...
Yeah, you could see this
coming. Dear Robert has a lot of expenses... I
just replaced a bunch
of legacy ubnt because of flat out chip failure.
Old electronics that
fail not because of exposure to discharges or stuff
like that. Just too
cheap run too hot...
On 08/10/2018 08:00 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
> I imagine the reason it didn't happen sooner, is because of the fact
> that it makes Ubiquiti look really bad (especially the part about suing
> a WISP... ). Also, they were probably trying to come up with an argument
> that would hold up.
>
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 9:55 AM Jason McKemie
> <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
<mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
> <mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>> wrote:
>
> I'm surprised this didn't happen sooner. The whole elevate thing was
> asking for it.
>
> On Friday, August 10, 2018, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>
> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/posts/1660546944070751
>
> Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. sues Cambium Networks.
>
> https://www.law360.com/articles/1071813/wireless-co-ubiquiti-says-rival-sells-hacking-firmware
>
> I'd like to see more of the claims.
>
> They've also sued Sakid Ahmed and Dmitry Moiseev of Cambium.
> They've sued WINNCOM TECHNOLOGIES, CORP..
>
> They've sued BLIP Networks, a WISP in southern Illinois.
>
>
>
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