Well since they're in the spotlight the IRS may take a gander at them On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, 11:43 AM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
> I’m not sure what Tim is referring to but ubiquiti is for sure going after > as much money as possible because they filed the suit under RICO law which > is a civil law used against the mofia. They are seeking treble (3x) > damages which is what RICO allows. I think it adds up to around > $300million or more. > > It’s a ridiculous assault on our community. > > -Sean > > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 5:05 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com> > wrote: > >> Ok, that's interesting and I certainly didn't see that in my super-duper >> quick scan.. UBNT has a contract with cambium? >> >> On 08/31/2018 01:26 PM, Timothy Steele wrote: >> > I read through that case there sueing more to get out of there contract >> > with cambium then money and the end user is suspected of making profit >> > and helping cambium >> > >> > I'm NOT saying UBNT is right or wrong >> > >> > There is just not enough information out yet to get super angry yet >> > >> > Very interested to see how this case unfolds though >> > >> > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018, 4:17 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us >> > <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote: >> > >> > don't forget that they then sue users, distributors and competitors >> > for conspiracy to hack when you load another OS/UI on their >> > commodity hardware that you own outright. >> > >> > Just sayin' >> > >> > -Sean >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:05 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] >> > <j...@brazoswifi.com <mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com>> wrote: >> > >> > UBNT is doing what UBNT does. They take commodity hardware and >> > wrap it in a shiny box with a slick UI. ____ >> > >> > The commodity hardware is cheap and works reliably well. Don’t >> > hate on something that sells well because it is easy to use.____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > No, they aren’t selling glass. They expect you to do that part >> > on your own.____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > Jim Bouse >> > Owner - Brazos WiFi >> > 979-985-5912 >> > http://www.brazoswifi.com____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com >> > <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones >> > *Sent:* Friday, August 31, 2018 8:44 AM >> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com >> > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> >> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > I don't trust ubnt in any space. That's why their fiber stuffs >> > aren't even on our radar. They're just doing the electronics >> > right? Tell me they're not in the glass game itself. Tell me God >> > they're not selling tough fiber or anything like that to rot in >> > the ground____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 2:25 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com >> > <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:____ >> > >> > I can generally get a building permit to use a public >> > utility ROW or the side of a street for almost free. ____ >> > >> > Perhaps use a customers home for everything in exchange for >> > service etc. ____ >> > >> > ____ >> > >> > I agree, for 30 PON is a good way to go. But I like the >> > simplicity of AE, the fact that I can cast shade on PON >> > based competitors and not having to deal with splitters. >> ____ >> > >> > ____ >> > >> > And I do PON all day long with Calix. But for a non >> > regulated for profit startup, Calix is not the way to >> go.____ >> > >> > However I do not trust UBNT in this space... yet...____ >> > >> > ____ >> > >> > ____ >> > >> > *From:*Colin Stanners ____ >> > >> > *Sent:*Wednesday, August 29, 2018 1:18 PM____ >> > >> > *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ____ >> > >> > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber____ >> > >> > ____ >> > >> > ActiveEthernet: Property acquisition for the land, legal >> > fees, concrete pad, electrical install, cabinet, UPS, >> > heating/cooling, fiber switch is probably $10,000 - 15,000 >> > including cost of time. When we're busy I'm not sure that it >> > would be worth doing for only 30 homes.____ >> > >> > ____ >> > >> > PON: two 1x16 fiber splitters that fit in existing splice >> > cases and require none of that support cost $60 each.____ >> > >> > ____ >> > >> > Shared bandwidth...16 customers sharing 2.5gbit fiber looks >> > pretty good when we still have tower sites with 16 customers >> > on a 10mbit 2.4Ghz FSK AP. And 10Gbit GPON seems to be >> > coming soon... ____ >> > >> > ____ >> > >> > ____ >> > >> > ____ >> > >> > ____ >> > >> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:04 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com >> > <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:____ >> > >> > If you have one strand going out there, you hang a >> > switch and give all 30 homes active E. ____ >> > >> > ____ >> > >> > Each home needs a drop. ____ >> > >> > So you have to connect the drop to either a splitter or >> > an SFP. ____ >> > >> > ____ >> > >> > With AE you will have to power the switch but then you >> > have no shared bandwidth, it has market cache vs shared >> > bandwidth old fashioned GPON etc...____ >> > >> > ____ >> > >> > ____ >> > >> > ____ >> > >> > *From:*Colin Stanners ____ >> > >> > *Sent:*Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:57 PM____ >> > >> > *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ____ >> > >> > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber____ >> > >> > ____ >> > >> > That's the main reason, and it branches into >> > upgradeability. If a new 30-house subdivision appears in >> > a field a few miles from your headend, and you have a >> > spare 10 strands going out there, you only need to use >> > 2-3 strands instead of running new 48-strand cable the >> > whole way.____ >> > >> > ____ >> > >> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:53 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com >> > <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:____ >> > >> > So, other than the obvious strand count advantages, >> > why would you use this vs active ethernet?____ >> > >> > ____ >> > >> > *From:*Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] ____ >> > >> > *Sent:*Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:04 PM____ >> > >> > *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ____ >> > >> > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber____ >> > >> > ____ >> > >> > It works fine. We have it in 2 subdivisions. >> > It is brain dead simple to configure.____ >> > >> > Since it “Just Works” there isn’t a lot to >> > configure. The ONU (cpe) can run in bridge or >> > router mode. I’m not sure what the routing/NAT >> > speeds are capable of but it will do 1G in bridge >> > mode without breaking a sweat.____ >> > >> > ____ >> > >> > Jim Bouse >> > Owner - Brazos WiFi >> > 979-985-5912 >> > http://www.brazoswifi.com____ >> > >> > ____ >> > >> > *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com >> > <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of >> > *Jason McKemie >> > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:17 PM >> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> > <Af@af.afmug.com <mailto:Af@af.afmug.com>> >> > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber____ >> > >> > ____ >> > >> > Does anyone actually have this equipment in a >> > production environment? 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