I did it with 4" Rigid Pipe. I used a screw on cap, and bolted a ring
through the top I drilled holes in the base of the pipe and hammered rebar
through at varying angles to prevent twist.  It is only a 40' tower, but it
has been working great.

On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 7:53 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> I'm as confused as he is....
>
> I suspect you're talking about the amount of stress the tower will put on
> the guy wire, not the initial tension.  The install diagram for a 120FT 45G
> shows the initial tension at 399# for the 3/16's and 665# for the 1/4.
> Rounding, you're talking around 1465 lbs of initial tension.  Assuming a
> 1:10 typical ratio, this is probably going to be around 11,465 LBS of
> pull.
>
> On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 9:37 PM Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Read the whole post
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 10:14 PM Craig House <cr...@totalhighspeed.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lewis
>>> What instructions do you have that says 80% of breaking strength?
>>> Everything I have ever seen says 10% and the 3/16 wire is 4000#.  I still
>>> overtighten to about 20% to make it feel secure and it usually stretches
>>> and after a few temp changes it ends up being around 15% of the tensile
>>> strenghth?  I have never tightened to 80%.  That being said I still would
>>> have the concerns about the pipe bending.  I am going to back anchor the
>>> pipe and I am going to put some Sonnet tube over it and put concrete up the
>>> pole as well for at least 1/2 of the height of the pipe.  I have used
>>> beam's before as well but I think this pipe I got is actually more rigid
>>> than the I beam I used in the past.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Sent: *Saturday, September 29, 2018 8:18:47 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Anchor holes
>>>
>>>
>>> You are supposed to tension guys at 80% of breaking tensil strength. On
>>> 120 foot 45g that is likely a 1/4 inch guy on top. Maybe 3/16 on the other
>>> 3.
>>> That and probably 5600 pounds on the top guy and 4400 or so on the
>>> others. That means there will be almost 19,000 pounds of pull on that guy
>>> point. If you only want the tower for a few years, don't change anything.
>>> If you want it longer, I would ditch the pipe, but some 12 inch I beam. Cut
>>> the top at a 60 degree angle punch 4 holes. Leave the top flange long, bend
>>> it over at 45 degrees and punch 2 holes on it.
>>> But if course it is your show. If you give Rohn the info and what you
>>> want to do they will give you an engineered solution in a week for free.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 6:55 PM Craig House <cr...@totalhighspeed.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Planning on putting a sonnet tube over the outside with rebar and
>>>> reinforcing at some on the outside as well
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> > On Sep 29, 2018, at 18:49, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > On 9/29/18 4:29 PM, Craig House wrote:
>>>> > > It’s 120 foot tall 45G Tower. I’ve already purchased and had the
>>>> pipe
>>>> > > welded for planning on putting it in the holes on Monday if I can
>>>> get
>>>> > > the holes dug
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > I guess if you're committed to pipe at least fill it with concrete.
>>>> >
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