Wow. I was way off. Not sure what I was thinking about but you're right, 10% not 80%. Makes a hell of a lot more sense. I have had to go back and replace anchors on a number of old Rohn G series towers that had large pipe stanchion type anchors. Some were due to pipe bending, some were due to inadequate depth of holes. One was due to erosion. Rarely do people think about the fact this tower is going to be here for 30 years. Amazing how much dirt can be moved by erosion in that period of time.
Anyway, I still like I beam. I'll try to find a picture of our last one we did. And by the way, try to find yourself a driller that can bell the bottom of the hole. When I was younger I used to just hop down in that 10 foot deep 3 foot hole and bell it out with a small spade. Not to bright. On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 6:21 PM Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> wrote: > Craig, you need to get an engineered design for elevated guy wires like > this. How did you come to the conclusion that a 5.5" diameter conduit pipe > was going to be sufficient? > > Even if you want to attempt the calcs yourself, you are way undersized. I > did the calcs myself once with a ME buddy helping me, we ended up needing > 12" diameter pipe I think 1/2" wall thickness to raise the guy points for a > 100ft 25G up 6ft above ground. We augered 3ft diameter holes 4ft deep > around the pipes. I-Beams are probably a more typical solution but we have > a used pipeline company nearby so the 12" pipe was readily accessible. > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 6:26 PM Craig House <cr...@totalhighspeed.net> > wrote: > >> I get the yellow guy marker covers in 8' lengths for about 6 dollars >> each. I have been recently switching to what your talking about. Near the >> same cost but you can cut them longer which is nice if the wire is low >> hanging on a hill side or if someone is going to be driving taller >> equipment around the area.. I think I am going to purchase yellow paint >> like used in parking lots and gas stations to paint the poles once >> installed. Thanks Everyone >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Sent: *Sunday, September 30, 2018 2:44:04 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Anchor holes >> >> I purchase 1/2" poly gas line for the wire markers. You can get it at >> your local HVAC supply store. Cut it into 10' lengths for each wire, and >> it works like a champ. >> >> On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 1:32 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Oh my. What's the address? >>> >>> >>> On 9/30/2018 1:03 PM, Craig House wrote: >>> > Adam the problem here is not that we don’t use the markers because we >>> do the problem is that this campground allows drunken night time ATV riding >>> without helmets. Apparently would be a great place for some video cameras >>> to if I wanted footage for girls gone wild or rednecks gone wild >>> > >>> > Sent from my iPhone >>> > >>> >> On Sep 30, 2018, at 11:55, <ch...@wbmfg.com> <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Back in the olden days, I dug telephone pole holes up to 7 feet deep >>> with >>> >> very long handled shovels, spoons and a long digging bar. >>> >> >>> >> Then we would manually install the pole in the hole with pike poles. >>> >> >>> >> Don't miss that! >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: Adam Moffett >>> >> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 10:49 AM >>> >> To: af@af.afmug.com >>> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anchor holes >>> >> >>> >> Yeah, what Mitch said. They make yellow guards for guy wires; >>> >> specifically so people can see them and not get clotheslined. >>> >> >>> >> It would also seem if somebody could hit the wire, they could hit your >>> >> pipe. Rather than getting clotheslined they've wrecked their ATV and >>> >> face planted into a pole. Making it more visible would be the key. If >>> >> the guy wire would physically cross an ATV trail, then moving the guy >>> >> anchors farther out would give it more clearance. >>> >> >>> >> But I know I'm safely in my armchair here and can't see the situation >>> on >>> >> the ground. >>> >> >>> >> Telephone pole contractors can auger that deep. We had a guy doing 30" >>> >> holes 10 feet deep for so we could plant an 80' pole. If you want to >>> >> hit 6 feet depth, they might have something at the tool rental place >>> for >>> >> setting deck posts. If not, then a telephone pole contractor. They can >>> >> go through rock if they have carbide rock teeth on the auger. >>> >> >>> >> -Adam >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On 9/29/2018 7:08 PM, Mitch Koep wrote: >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> >>> >>> Maybe a chain link fence next to the guy wires >>> >>> >>> >>> to the ground connection Extend fence out to the the point the guy >>> wires >>> >>> is about >>> >>> >>> >>> 10 foot above ground??? >>> >>> >>> >>> We do that and use light weight orange fiber duct on the guy wires >>> to the >>> >>> ground lug >>> >>> >>> >>> Mitch >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9/29/2018 3:15 PM, Craig House wrote: >>> >>>> Yes. Elevated guy supports. The location is an atv off road ranch >>> and >>> >>>> they are worried about people getting clothes lined. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> On Sep 29, 2018, at 15:05, <ch...@wbmfg.com> <ch...@wbmfg.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> 10 foot tall wooden poles for an aerial attachment only need to be >>> set >>> >>>>> maybe >>> >>>>> 4 feet deep. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Or are you talking about elevated supports for guy wires? >>> >>>>> If so, you probably need to dig a trench for an L shaped sleeper >>> and the >>> >>>>> some rebar in sonotube for the poles and anchors. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>>>> From: Craig House >>> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 12:55 PM >>> >>>>> To: af@af.afmug.com >>> >>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Anchor holes >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> I have a tower construction location which is going to require 10 >>> foot >>> >>>>> poles >>> >>>>> above ground as an attachment point for the wires at each of the >>> holes. >>> >>>>> I >>> >>>>> have the pipes constructed but I’m concerned about being able to >>> drill >>> >>>>> the >>> >>>>> holes in our soil and ground to accommodate the pipes. Has anyone >>> done >>> >>>>> something like this before I’m not looking to do typical anchor >>> holes >>> >>>>> that >>> >>>>> are 6 feet or 8 feet wide and a foot and a half across I’m looking >>> for >>> >>>>> an >>> >>>>> auger hole that is a straight 6 to 7 feet down >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> -- >>> >>>>> AF mailing list >>> >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> -- >>> >>>>> AF mailing list >>> >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> AF mailing list >>> >> AF@af.afmug.com >>> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> AF mailing list >>> >> AF@af.afmug.com >>> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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