If it's BiDi, the Rx signal on one end shouldn't be too different from the Rx signal on the other end.

I would miss having error counters on the copper interface that the customer plugs in to.  If that interface was faulty and you couldn't see it then you'd sit there looking at your switch interface running error free and tell the customer (incorrectly) that everything is fine.

Part of my bias is from having spent a lot of time on tech support in the past.  I hate an invisible problem.  If I told someone there's no problem and it turned out there was actually something wrong then I felt like an ass.  I'm thinking 95-99% of the time you'd get by with your media converter, and 1% of the time you'd be an ass.  Maybe that's ok given the other savings you'd have.



On 10/8/2018 3:19 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
I like error counters and Rx signal strength at the customer side, those have helped more than once with troubleshooting issues.

On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 1:42 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

    Do you allow the customer access to the user interface?
    *From:* Jason McKemie
    *Sent:* Monday, October 08, 2018 12:04 PM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap
    I use the RB260GS units, seem to work fine and they provide
    troubleshooting capabilities at the customer end. Dumb media
    converters would be a non-starter for me.

    On Monday, October 8, 2018, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

        https://www.fs.com/products/35333.html
        It has storage specs to –20C.  Not sure why operating temps
        are 0C on the lower end.  But if it is inside an enclosure it
        will self heat.
        $23 plus the $9 SFP.
        https://www.fs.com/products/37922.html
        $32 plus enclosure.  Pretty low cost per customer doing it
        this way.
        I know Sterling uses MTs for much the same thing, but if I
        remember he cannot get the one he likes any longer.
        I like this as there is zero config here.  Dumb media
        converter.  Put all your smarts at your router or switch.

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