You have to be very careful with your coordinate reference system.   There are 
(literally) thousands of them.  One advantage of using the county GIS data and 
aerials is that the aerials are (usually) corrected and in the same CRS as the 
SHP files.     

Mark

> On Mar 9, 2019, at 9:51 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
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> I've often found that drawings are often wrong when projected in a GIS 
> environment. It could be simple coincidence.
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>  <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> From: "Mark Radabaugh" <m...@amplex.net>
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 8:41:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fiber design and permitting
> 
> There are a number of options, none I’m completely in love with yet.
> 
> In any case - start with your counties GIS department.  It’s usually part of 
> either the tax office or the engineers office and ask them for the GIS files 
> for parcels, ROW, addresses, road centerlines, etc.   Also ask for copies of 
> the high resolution aerial images.  Most will provide all of this to you for 
> free or a nominal charge.  
> 
> QGIS is a fantastic GIS program and the price is right (free).   It’s nearly 
> as capable as many of the high end GIS systems these days.   Where it’s 
> somewhat lacking for making construction prints is that it’s not a CAD system 
> so drawing on it is a bit awkward but very doable.   I have made complete 
> construction prints with it several times.
> 
> A more expensive option is AutoCAD MAP 3D.  The Map3D extensions to AutoCAD 
> add the ability to work with shape files (GIS) files.   If you already know 
> AutoCAD and want to avoid the learning curve of QGIS it might be worth the 
> software cost to you.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Something like this is our typical construction drawing out of GQIS:
> 
> <PastedGraphic-1.png>
> 
> On Mar 9, 2019, at 2:30 AM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com 
> <mailto:t...@voltbb.com>> wrote:
> 
> how are most of you guys getting your design on paper for pulling permits? 
> I'm assuming if I design a plant layout on a napkin I need professional plans 
> showing ROW location, proposed cable location, depth, streets, etc then you 
> take that to the local building department and pull a permit?
> 
> For rural plowing, do I need a drill to cross side streets and driveways or 
> an I get away with a pneumatic missile ?
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