I believe there is a spare antenna already connected. I’ll have to check on Monday.
> On Apr 20, 2019, at 14:22, <ch...@wbmfg.com> <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > Do they have a spare FM antenna you could connect to a temp line and perhaps > pull it up the tower while on? > > I know I am getting increasingly crazy with ideas here but just spitballing. > > From: Matt Hoppes > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2019 12:17 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: CAT5. FM. And Rain > > The Nautel doesn’t ramp. It’s all or nothing. > >> On Apr 20, 2019, at 13:03, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >> Would you be allowed to ramp up the RF and see what levels cause what kinds >> of problems? >> >> From: Chuck McCown >> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2019 10:47 AM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: CAT5. FM. And Rain >> >> Do you have perhaps a grounding issue at one end or the other? Most >> ethernet devices have phy transformers that ground directly or through a >> capacitor. Ground potential differences between one end and the other can >> cause a problem like this. >> >> If you are connected to an earth ground that changes with moisture then >> perhaps a ground loop is causing problems. This seems backwards but it may >> be ground related somehow. >> >> Fiber >> Spray water >> Liquidtight >> >> I hate to suggest the intermod theory as it seems a bit unlikely to have >> intermod strong enough to interfere with an ethernet signal, but not too >> many things left to think. >> >> >> >> From: Matt Hoppes >> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2019 10:41 AM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: CAT5. FM. And Rain >> >> The issue has gotten worse over the last two years. With it be terrible >> right now. >> >> We just reran cable last month. All new cable and radios. And still having >> the issue. >> >>> On Apr 20, 2019, at 12:03, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>> >>> You would have to climb it with a garden sprayer strapped to your back. >>> I am more of the opinion of the corroded RJ45. >>> >>> From: Matt Hoppes >>> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2019 8:42 AM >>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: CAT5. FM. And Rain >>> >>> Not in liquidtight. >>> >>> Have ground lifted and grounded. No change. >>> >>> Have not wet things (would be difficult - no ready source of water) >>> >>> Obviously RF is getting into the Ethernet, when things are wet. I’m just >>> trying to figure out why. Clearly a connection is being made somewhere it >>> shouldn’t be. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Apr 20, 2019, at 09:58, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> So moisture + rf = Ethernet interference. Just as originally stated. No >>>> standing waves. >>>> Is your cat5 in liquidtight? Have you played with grounding & ungrounding >>>> the shields? How about taking a garden sprayer and selectively wetting >>>> things? >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> From: Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> >>>>> Date: April 20, 2019 at 7:52:12 AM MDT >>>>> To: Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CAT5. FM. And Rain >>>>> >>>>> Yes. Problem goes away. >>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2019, at 09:51, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you killed the ref when you are having the problem? Might not be >>>>>> ref related. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2019, at 7:11 PM, Matt Hoppes >>>>>>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 19watts >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 4/19/19 8:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>>>>> What is the reflected power when you are having problems? >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2019, at 6:41 PM, Matt Hoppes >>>>>>>>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My thoughts too. But the reflected power right now is only 19watts >>>>>>>>> out of 9,000. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2019, at 20:14, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My guess is that the FM station has a problem with the antenna or >>>>>>>>>> transmission line. Moisture throws off impedance somewhere and you >>>>>>>>>> have a strong standing wave on the transmission line. Probably a >>>>>>>>>> bad connector. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2019, at 5:52 PM, Matt Hoppes >>>>>>>>>>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Looking to the wisdom of the AF group on this. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have some equipment on an FM tower. It’s a 9kw station around >>>>>>>>>>> 150ft. We are at 250ft with two sectors and a backhaul. Netonix >>>>>>>>>>> switch in shelter. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nothing else on the tower. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Normally all is fine. When it rains or is very moist out (heavy >>>>>>>>>>> heavy fog) we start having major Ethernet negotiation issues. The >>>>>>>>>>> ports will go from 1Gig to 10F sometimes. Sometimes drop completely. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I’ve got ferrite beads wrapped about 5 times top and bottom. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Any further words of wisdom on what to try? I suspect some odd >>>>>>>>>>> grounding issue. 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