Matt,
 I have that T-shirt For sure.. I was on a FM tower that was only 5kw combined over one 5/8 coax for years.
Started with FSK then Cambium gear.
 The things I noticed worse was the type of cable used. The longest time we had used AL shielded type cable and eventually relocated our switching near the base of the cluster which helped for a while but after some time the AL shielding evaporated and that type of cabling was barely good enough to get 10baseT out of it and still had CRCs We eventually moved to Superior Essex for everything on the tower and used clips,hangers and grommets to get it off the tower leg.
Let the copper shields float on the cables and never looked back.
We have since moved completely off the tower last year but still didnt have any issues at that time.

What I did notice is that when we did move our switching and POE closer to the cluster inside a nema enclosure it cleared a bunch of issues on the cable for a long time.

Dave


On 4/20/19 10:06 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
What's also interesting is none of the stuff in the shack has negotiating issues -- so it doesn't seem to be the switch as a whole getting swamped, but rather the CAT5 getting swamped going up the tower.

On 4/20/19 9:58 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
So moisture + rf = Ethernet interference.  Just as originally stated.   No standing waves. Is your cat5 in liquidtight?  Have you played with grounding & ungrounding the shields?  How about taking a garden sprayer and selectively wetting things?

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*From:* Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>
*Date:* April 20, 2019 at 7:52:12 AM MDT
*To:* Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
*Subject:* *Re: [AFMUG] CAT5. FM. And Rain*

Yes. Problem goes away.

On Apr 20, 2019, at 09:51, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

Have you killed the ref when you are having the problem?  Might not be ref related.

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On Apr 19, 2019, at 7:11 PM, Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:

19watts

On 4/19/19 8:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
What is the reflected power when you are having problems?
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On Apr 19, 2019, at 6:41 PM, Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:

My thoughts too. But the reflected power right now is only 19watts out of 9,000.

On Apr 19, 2019, at 20:14, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

My guess is that the FM station has a problem with the antenna or transmission line.  Moisture throws off impedance somewhere and you have a strong standing wave on the transmission line.  Probably a bad connector.

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On Apr 19, 2019, at 5:52 PM, Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:

Looking to the wisdom of the AF group on this.

I have some equipment on an FM tower.  It’s a 9kw station around 150ft. We are at 250ft with two sectors and a backhaul.  Netonix switch in shelter.

Nothing else on the tower.

Normally all is fine.   When it rains or is very moist out (heavy heavy fog) we start having major Ethernet negotiation issues.   The ports will go from 1Gig to 10F sometimes. Sometimes drop completely.

I’ve got ferrite beads wrapped about 5 times top and bottom.

Any further words of wisdom on what to try?  I suspect some odd grounding issue. But not sure how to track it down or isolate it.
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