I built a 5 meter earth station foundation wrong because the transit I borrowed 
from the forest station had declination already dialed into the compass and I 
adjusted for it a second time visually when laying out the forms.

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> On May 13, 2019, at 6:30 AM, Brian Webster <i...@wirelessmapping.com> wrote:
> 
> Magnetic declination depends on where in the world you are located and it 
> does change over time. Most topographic 7.5 minute quad maps show that 
> declination in the legend area. For me it’s about 12.5 degrees west of north, 
> in other areas like the pacific northwest it’s about 14 to 16 degrees east of 
> North. Important information to know. Years ago we had drawings from an 
> engineering firm that showed the declination from true to magnetic but they 
> put it in the wrong direction so the error on the drawings was over 40 
> degrees (based on 1998 declinations) and as such the tower antenna platform 
> got installed wrong.
>  
> A good map showing the details can be viewed here including the years as to 
> what declination was applied at the time. It does change over time. Surveyors 
> need to know this if they are trying to set property lines based on an old 
> legal description.
>  
> https://maps.ngdc.noaa.gov/viewers/historical_declination/
>  
>  
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
> www.wirelessmapping.com
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>  
> From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2019 6:58 PM
> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Antenna Aligner
>  
> You’re not making me less confused.
>  
> Back when I was teaching cub scouts to use a compass, was I teaching them a 
> bunch of crap?
>  
>  
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2019 5:48 PM
> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Antenna Aligner
>  
> 14 for me.
>  
> From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2019 3:18 PM
> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Antenna Aligner
>  
> It is only 1 or 2 degrees where you live but it is probably 15 degrees where 
> Bill lives. 
>  
> From: Ken Hohhof
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2019 4:14 PM
> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Antenna Aligner
>  
> Whenever I see the difference between magnetic and true north I get confused 
> about which one we’re supposedly using and decide 1 or 2 degrees doesn’t 
> matter on a 90 degree sector.  Plus I get lazy and just align the sectors to 
> the tower faces or the roads.
>  
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Daniel White
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2019 4:37 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Antenna Aligner
>  
> I've used the 3Z and Sunsight ones some.  It was a few years ago though.
> 
> Really it boils down if you want the screen on the device or to use your 
> phone or sometheneing else.  I'd probably go with Sunsight personally, but 
> either are a good investment.
>  
> <image002.jpg>
> Daniel White
> Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations
> direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
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> SmarterBroadband wrote on 5/10/19 15:28:
> 
> Thinking of getting an Antenna Aligner for Sector and Dish alignment.
>  
> Choices seem to be
>  
> Multiwave Smart Aligner
> 3Z Telecom RF Vision
> Sunsight
>  
> Anyone have experience of any of these?
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Adam
>  
> 
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