So, as long as I use the MURS VHF frequencies, no license is needed?
*From:* Brian Webster
*Sent:* Friday, May 17, 2019 8:23 AM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies
The cheap HT’s will program up on those channels just fine. Watch the
per channel requirements. In MURS there are I think two wideband
channels and three narrow band. The radios have settings for narrow or
wide. If you are going to be using these for job site specific work
all over the MURS is the way to go to stay legal. Nice thing is the
radios you purchased will work for both GMRS and MURS.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
www.Broadband-Mapping.com <wlmailhtml:www.Broadband-Mapping.com>
*From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
*Sent:* Friday, May 17, 2019 12:22 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies
Any FCC ID on the back of the radios under the battery? Search that to
see what they were certified for. You might not find anything if
they're marketed to hams (saves China money on the labs and certs). In
reality, who will know and who will care what model radios you're
using? Just sayin' (not endorsing).
I did our Part 90 601 a few years ago in about an hour and the $260 or
whatever it was at the time. WQYC725 if you want to look it up. The
cheap $15-20 Baofeng 888's or whatever they're called for the field
guys. You just throw them away when they fall apart.
The other option would be MURS. Falls under Part 95 like GMRS, but no
license is required. FM-N voice only. Think of it like VHF-FM citizens
band w/ 2-watts output into gain antennas. It's pretty much dead quiet
on all 5 channels around me, except for some bursts of telemetry once
in a while. But there's that Part 95 certified device requirement. I
see businesses using the Baofengs and similar on MURS all the time, so
again... who knows/cares.
On 5/16/2019 8:57 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Can I use these cheap HTs on these frequencies?
*From:*George Skorup
*Sent:*Thursday, May 16, 2019 7:35 PM
*To:*af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies
Part 90 business itinerant allows you to do FM-Narrow and/or
digital voice+data (including encryption) across the lower 48 for
practically nothing for 10 years. There are 8 VHF and 8 UHF shared
frequencies. Do the form 601 yourself and pay the FCC. No
coordination required. No GMRS licensing nonsense for employees.
On 5/16/2019 3:16 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
On our community emergency list I think all the people with
call signs use them. At least intermittently. There are a few
people who don't use their call signs. Nobody asks.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 5/16/2019 11:47 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I am gonna try a pair of Baofengs and a pair of the
Retevis and see how my guys like them. I got a license so
that will cover family. I guess I will claim the guys are
adopted if we get busted. Will probably buy them licenses
as time goes on.
Does anyone really use their callsigns in a legal manner
on GMRS? My wife and I are used to it being hams for
decades but not sure how well it will go over with the
guys. I guess telling them it is a $25K and 10 years
penalty might get them to do it. Seems silly.
*From:*Lewis Bergman
*Sent:*Tuesday, May 7, 2019 7:10 PM
*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies
I would be careful about any of the Chinese radios. I
don't know anything about Ham stuff and they may meet that
are off rules. I know a few of the people that head up
licensing agencies and they say many, like Baofung,
violate FCC rules. Those rules may not apply to you though
so take that for what it is worth.
On Tue, May 7, 2019, 12:15 PM Bill Prince
<part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
We use the Baofeng UV-5R with a 15" whip. Using the
available programming software makes them relatively
easy to set up. We ran a radio drill this last weekend
through our new repeater, and everything seemed to
work pretty well. I've got some concerns about the
location the group picked for the repeater, but
overall, not bad at all.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 5/6/2019 1:22 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Baofeng are hard to program. They seem to work ok.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 6, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Brian Webster
<i...@wirelessmapping.com> wrote:
Technically you are supposed to only use
radios on GMRS that have FCC type
certification for GMRS service. Some will say
that part 90 certified UHF radios are allowed
to be used in GMRS, I recall that rule was
only for radios that were certified part 90
before the part 95A (I think that’s the
section for GMRS) was set up as a requirement.
Now if you aren’t so concerned about that
certification use these. I have quite a few
various Chinese radios and I have never heard
of this brand, so personally at that price I
would go with a more known Chinese brand such
as Baofeng or Woxoun. Since there are actually
still wide band GMRS channels (not the
splinter channels for portable to portable
comms only), I would shop around for some real
radios such as Motorola UHF portables that
will be more durable. You should be able to
get the old wide band versions cheap. Likely
will need new batteries and maybe antennas but
they should last. Commercial radio services
are all narrow band now so wide band only
radios are no longer legal in those services.
Sometimes you can find a nice deal on a set in
a gang charger. If you do look at any
particular models ping me off list and I can
let you know which models are good and bad to
use. I can point you in the right direction
for programming and such as well.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
<http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
www.Broadband-Mapping.com
<http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com>
*From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On
Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Monday, May 06, 2019 3:08 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies
Hanoi handi potatoe potato
Sent from my iPhone
On May 6, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Chuck McCown
<ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
https://www.amazon.com/Retevis-Radios-Range-Scrambler-Speaker/dp/B00PVQ5LO8/ref=asc_df_B00PVQ5LO8/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312039479427&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15843251035210015126&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1013962&hvtargid=pla-569078696569&psc=1
Gmrs? Anyone know this radio? I had it
recommended to me this morning.
Sent from my iPhone
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