I would suspect they are going to have hundreds of earth stations as opposed to 
one or two earth stations that legacy platforms have. Up to the bird, maybe 
across one or two birds, and back down to the fiber-fed earth stations. I've 
seen the numbers, but I forgot the numbers. It's real bandwidth at each one. 




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From: "Tim Withrow via AF" <af@af.afmug.com> 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Cc: "Tim Withrow" <timwith...@aol.com> 
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2019 4:43:01 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX Says Its 60 Starlink Satellites Are All Phoning 
Home (and Fading Out) | Space 


What kind of bandwidth capacity could each satellite have at any given point? 
What is the usable bandwidth of their system? Who makes a radio that big to 
carry/transmit such capacity or is it an 
aggregate of small radio's? 



On Saturday, June 1, 2019 Bill Prince < af@af.afmug.com > wrote: 




Naturally, we're all thinking about what effect this will have in rural 
America, but I am also wondering if this would have some effect on China's 
"great firewall"? 

bp
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On 6/1/2019 1:47 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: 








I think one factor advocacy groups and govt critters need to keep in mind is 
that instead of robust competition, what could occur is “disruptive” pricing, 
having the effect of discouraging or bankrupting the competition. And now some 
new entrant is the only game in town. And if it turns out to be unreliable, or 
not to have enough capacity, or their speeds are actually best effort, or their 
satellites start dropping out of the sky, or whatever, people can’t switch back 
to their old provider. Like being dissatisfied with online stores and assuming 
you can always switch back to the old brick and mortar store, from Uber and 
Lyft back to taxis and limos. Sorry, they don’t exist anymore. 

This is unlikely to happen in big cities, I doubt Comcast will go bankrupt 
because of Starlink. But to just assume there will be lots of choices out in 
the middle of nowhere driving the price down without any of them turning off 
the lights, seems a little naïve. 

And to assume big megacorps like SpaceX, Amazon, Googe, Facebook, etc. would 
never price below cost to be “disruptive” also seems naïve. 




From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Bill Prince 
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2019 3:20 PM 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX Says Its 60 Starlink Satellites Are All Phoning 
Home (and Fading Out) | Space 

Sure. But after the clouds, geostationary still needs to go another 23,000 
miles. LEO only has to go a few hundred. 
bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 

On 6/1/2019 10:47 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: 
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Clouds are generally a lot lower than a couple hundred miles... 



On Sat, Jun 1, 2019, 10:58 AM Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: 
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Maybe at geostationary distances, but these are only a few hundred miles up. 

bp 
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 

On 6/1/2019 8:56 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: 
> Don't those bands have significant attenuation issues with like... 
> clouds? 
> 
> On 6/1/19 10:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote: 
>> According to Wikipedia, they will be on Ku, Ka, and V bands. 
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink_(satellite_constellation) 
>> 
>> bp 
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 
>> 
>> On 6/1/2019 7:46 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: 
>>> Wonder what frequencies they will use? 
>>> 
>>> https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-satellites-phone-home-dimming.html 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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