Or like me, I can fly a desk, but I’m afraid of heights and that would be a problem if you hired me as an installer.
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:01 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Assessing life skills Indeed. For an installer, it seems to me that construction-type experience is probably more valuable than tech experience. On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 8:21 AM Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net> > wrote: Was he in the dilemma of trying to get a tech job without experience but couldn't experience without a job? I'm as interested in someone that knows a wood bit from a mortar bit as I am in someone that can perform a simple router setup. Jerry Head wrote: > Disagree. > We hired an installer last year who just turned 18. > He was one of three people (of 9 who answered the ad) who showed up. > We had a simple test of programming a XX-Link router. > He failed. > My network engineer said "Lets try him anyway". > We did hire him and he has worked out really well. > So there's that I guess. > > > On 5/31/2019 9:34 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> Anyone worth a crap is not out looking for a job these days. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 30, 2019, at 10:51 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) >>> <li...@packetflux.com <mailto:li...@packetflux.com> > wrote: >>> >>> A couple of thoughts: >>> >>> Many of these type of people will be working on something interesting >>> in their own time. Maybe some probing questions about what they >>> have done on their own. Depending on what you're looking for, things >>> like 'have you ever played with an arduino? Raspberry Pi? etc?' >>> might help. >>> >>> Have you thought about what would have attracted you to a job listing? >>> That might be a good starting point. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 6:28 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> When I was young I went exploring. I'd ask my mom if I could go for a >>>> bike ride. I never really specified where, and just kept ranging >>>> farther and farther from home. I'd end up in creeks, culvert pipes, >>>> climbing fences, walking through woods, construction sites, quarries, >>>> and basically anywhere else I didn't get kicked out of. I got >>>> there on >>>> my bike so in terms of parental permission I put it all under the >>>> category of "going for a bike ride". I only got arrested once, but I >>>> probably deserved it a few more times. >>>> >>>> I also took things apart and used bits of wire and a battery to play >>>> with the components. At an early job they were impressed that I >>>> correctly used the word "potentiometer" in a sentence. I also >>>> plugged a >>>> DC motor into a 120V AC outle --a valuable lesson there. I also >>>> melted a >>>> NiCad battery on the carpet when I left it on the charger too long. >>>> >>>> My hobbies included model trains and my RC car. I could tell you the >>>> difference between a parallel and series circuit when I was 10. I >>>> tagged >>>> along with my brother when he went out shooting with his Ruger >>>> 10/22. I >>>> slept out in the woods for the fun of it, and sometimes didn't bring >>>> anything but matches. Played with fireworks, made my own fireworks >>>> with >>>> homemade black powder and/or match heads. >>>> >>>> My dad made me do drywall, set fence posts, change the belt on a >>>> lawnmower, and so on. >>>> >>>> Every success and every failure contributed to a set of skills that I >>>> took for granted until I encountered people who didn't have them. >>>> Things >>>> like spatial reasoning, basic electricity, use of basic hand tools, >>>> and >>>> a general sense of time, distance, and direction. >>>> >>>> So the question for AFMUG is how do you find out whether a job >>>> applicant >>>> is the curious explorer who wants to know how everything works? >>>> How do >>>> I attract that applicant to begin with? I may want specific skills >>>> too >>>> like a juggler who can juggle, but I really want people who can figure >>>> stuff out and won't be deterred by every little bump in the road. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> - Forrest >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- *Jay Weekley* *Cyber Broadband * --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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