Since I was a Full time and a Part time soldier I was brought up with
good values and the meaning of hard work even though I had
my spell of crazy young man days but I think my first Tour humbled me a
bit to understand Focus.
Now that i am older it seems my Focus on some days fails me and I often
wonder if there are younger more focused people to
sustain hard work when needed.
I strongly believe in the hard worker and the veterans returning home
looking to start a new.
On 6/5/19 12:00 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Or like me, I can fly a desk, but I’m afraid of heights and that would
be a problem if you hired me as an installer.
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:01 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Assessing life skills
Indeed. For an installer, it seems to me that construction-type
experience is probably more valuable than tech experience.
On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 8:21 AM Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net
<mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:
Was he in the dilemma of trying to get a tech job without
experience but
couldn't experience without a job? I'm as interested in someone that
knows a wood bit from a mortar bit as I am in someone that can
perform a
simple router setup.
Jerry Head wrote:
> Disagree.
> We hired an installer last year who just turned 18.
> He was one of three people (of 9 who answered the ad) who showed up.
> We had a simple test of programming a XX-Link router.
> He failed.
> My network engineer said "Lets try him anyway".
> We did hire him and he has worked out really well.
> So there's that I guess.
>
>
> On 5/31/2019 9:34 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> Anyone worth a crap is not out looking for a job these days.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On May 30, 2019, at 10:51 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account)
>>> <li...@packetflux.com <mailto:li...@packetflux.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> A couple of thoughts:
>>>
>>> Many of these type of people will be working on something
interesting
>>> in their own time. Maybe some probing questions about what they
>>> have done on their own. Depending on what you're looking for,
things
>>> like 'have you ever played with an arduino? Raspberry Pi? etc?'
>>> might help.
>>>
>>> Have you thought about what would have attracted you to a job
listing?
>>> That might be a good starting point.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 6:28 AM Adam Moffett
<dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> When I was young I went exploring. I'd ask my mom if I could
go for a
>>>> bike ride. I never really specified where, and just kept ranging
>>>> farther and farther from home. I'd end up in creeks, culvert
pipes,
>>>> climbing fences, walking through woods, construction sites,
quarries,
>>>> and basically anywhere else I didn't get kicked out of. I got
>>>> there on
>>>> my bike so in terms of parental permission I put it all under the
>>>> category of "going for a bike ride". I only got arrested
once, but I
>>>> probably deserved it a few more times.
>>>>
>>>> I also took things apart and used bits of wire and a battery
to play
>>>> with the components. At an early job they were impressed that I
>>>> correctly used the word "potentiometer" in a sentence. I also
>>>> plugged a
>>>> DC motor into a 120V AC outle --a valuable lesson there. I also
>>>> melted a
>>>> NiCad battery on the carpet when I left it on the charger too
long.
>>>>
>>>> My hobbies included model trains and my RC car. I could tell
you the
>>>> difference between a parallel and series circuit when I was
10. I
>>>> tagged
>>>> along with my brother when he went out shooting with his Ruger
>>>> 10/22. I
>>>> slept out in the woods for the fun of it, and sometimes
didn't bring
>>>> anything but matches. Played with fireworks, made my own
fireworks
>>>> with
>>>> homemade black powder and/or match heads.
>>>>
>>>> My dad made me do drywall, set fence posts, change the belt on a
>>>> lawnmower, and so on.
>>>>
>>>> Every success and every failure contributed to a set of
skills that I
>>>> took for granted until I encountered people who didn't have
them.
>>>> Things
>>>> like spatial reasoning, basic electricity, use of basic hand
tools,
>>>> and
>>>> a general sense of time, distance, and direction.
>>>>
>>>> So the question for AFMUG is how do you find out whether a job
>>>> applicant
>>>> is the curious explorer who wants to know how everything works?
>>>> How do
>>>> I attract that applicant to begin with? I may want specific
skills
>>>> too
>>>> like a juggler who can juggle, but I really want people who
can figure
>>>> stuff out and won't be deterred by every little bump in the road.
>>>>
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