So what’s the Traco parts list for that?

I don’t do this stuff normally, so excited to get started and try it out.

If I’m pushing 48v up top to a roof, what’s the voltage drop?

I assume these DC units can somehow be tweaked so that output can accommodate 
for voltage drop.

What size wire is everyone using typically for this, usually 30-100 ft max 
length?

I’m assuming it’s something like 10 AWG? At 48v and 5A and 50’ is maybe 47.5v 
at the end?
So I would push 49 or 50v just to be safe?

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 8:19 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion

FWIW - we have lots of EdgePoint S16's that are powered by Traco BCM/TSP combos 
@ ~54V with no issues.

I agree with others - your battery plant should be 48VDC.

On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 10:15 AM Sterling Jacobson 
<sterl...@avative.net<mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:
Yeah, I’ll probably just use 48v battery array in series and float higher.

That particular device can do 48v, it just may shut down POE if it gets lower 
than 48v.

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 8:11 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion

Why not run your system at 54 volts?  If the radio freaks out above 54, just 
set it at 54 and you should be fine.  Battery strings don’t exceed the float 
voltage of the rectifier.  If you are worried about it float at 53.75 volts.

From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 11:19 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion

Having a hard time figuring out the exact part/price for something like this.

Which Meanwell part would take 48v and make it 50v or 54v 5A?

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 10:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion

That's weird to me.  Any telecom equipment made for 48v I would have assumed 
they intended it to be used with a rectifier, and consequently I would assume 
it'd be ok up to at least 56v continuous; and maybe more like 60-70v for a 
short duration.  But yeah, DC-DC converter is the fix.
On 6/18/2019 11:36 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
You need to use a DC-DC converter for sensitive equipment like that.  Meanwell 
has a good selection.

On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 8:12 PM Sterling Jacobson 
<sterl...@avative.net<mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:
Apparently the UBNT EP-S16 freaks out if it goes above 54v.
Is there any way to assure it doesn’t float/charge above 54v, or maybe even 
just 50v?

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
TJ Trout
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 7:26 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion

contact talley or tessco for a price, don't trust what you see on google, it's 
like 50% less

On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 6:25 PM TJ Trout 
<t...@voltbb.com<mailto:t...@voltbb.com>> wrote:
all 48v systems for battery power will float at 54v, it's also adjustable via 
the battery chemistry

On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 3:33 PM Sterling Jacobson 
<sterl...@avative.net<mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:
Ok, cool.

So can the 7bc2 be adjusted slightly to output 50v instead of just 48v?

There will be some loss going 100’  or so, right?


From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
TJ Trout
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 4:23 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS and DC to DC conversion

12-54v is inefficient, if you want 200ah of battery use 4x50ah batteries for a 
48v string

ICT24048-7BC2 360W 54v AC-DC + LVD + Charger
ICT-TMP - Temp sensor for charge compensation if batt's outside
ICT-WMB - Wall mount bracket
SITE Monitor - Voltage monitoring

Or

Alternativly;

48v din mount PSU
48v 'dc ups' to charge batt's and provide LVD
OR
48v din 'dc ups' with integrated psu + lvd + charger (i.e. DIN-UPS 48-5 cheaper 
options available)

On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 2:50 PM Sterling Jacobson 
<sterl...@avative.net<mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:
I’m trying to put a “box” system together for our house POP sites and need help 
with the DIN stuff and UPS.

Can you guys give me an idea or example of the following?

I want to take standard AC 15A in from a breaker outside the box.
And using maybe one or two 12v 105AH AGM batteries, supply 50v 6A up the side 
of the house.

I have never ordered DIN parts like this, guess I don’t have to use DIN, but 
would be nice.

Having a problem finding a DC to DC converter that takes 12v and upconverts to 
50v 5-6A.

Is this the cost effective method? Something like this:

Monitoring         Sitemonitor Base Unit II SMON Base II                        
                             1.00        $100.00                $100.00
UPS Monitor      Sitemonitor Int MorningStar MeterBus  SMON MorningStar         
1.00        $60.00                 $60.00
UPS Charge         MorningStar Sunsaver Dual                                    
                                      1.00        $165.00                $165.00
Battery AGM Deep Cycle 105AH NPP FT12-105AH                                     
                          2.00        $225.00                $450.00
DIN Parts like DC fuse/breakers and trunk stuff                                 
                                 1.00        $100.00                $100.00
DC 12v to 50v 5A                                                                
                                                              1.00        
$150.00                $150.00
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