At least in our area, tower companies (mostly older 2-way providers) are
not buying / building many towers - most of the builds outside of WISPs are
cell carriers, who will only use heavier-duty towers than what most WISPs
will build.

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 1:50 PM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Remove?  Why not sell them to a tower company?
>
> On 7/16/19 12:44 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
> > 
> > 1) if he doesn't have the money you're not going to get it.
> > 2) i've been thinking about this a lot lately too.  everyone who only
> > values based on annual revenue (as i used to do and have made several
> > purchases based on that) is probably not taking into account owned
> > vertical real estate.  a lot of times smaller wisps are only renting
> > water tanks or someone else's tower but as you get bigger you tend to
> > build.  i think we must own at least 15 towers...i'm not sure.  we don't
> > own the land (we own SOME of the land) but we do own the towers.
> > if you're shutting down, there is money involved in REMOVING those
> towers.
> >
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     *From:* TJ Trout <mailto:t...@voltbb.com>
> >     *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> >     *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2019 3:59 AM
> >     *Subject:* [AFMUG] Wisp value
> >
> >     I've been mentoring a friend of mine, he's young and rather
> >     ambitious. He started out his 'wisp' using a residential cable
> >     connection, I've helped him for basically free for the last three
> >     years grow his base to 250 customers, he just last week acquired a
> >     failing wisp with 65 subs on a no money down, pay us a commission
> >     basis. I've been managing most of his core network and providing him
> >     IPv4 and transit for a steal of a price, I even loaned him a
> >     substantial amount of cash recently to buy a bunch of surplus
> >     equipment. Well anyway I guess he got caught with another women and
> >     his wife is demanding he shut down or sell the wisp for
> >     whatever reason, he called and put this all on my plate today.
> >
> >     Instead of offering to sell me the company (I don't really want it)
> >     he tellse that he's going to try selling to a local competitor whom
> >     I consider slightly a better personal than a child molester.
> >
> >     So anyway I'll try to stop rambling, what's a wisp Worth these days?
> >     Gross revenue for a year is what I figure (max) with his all used
> >     ubnt equipment?
> >
> >     The other dilemma is that he's about 3 months behind on his transit
> >     and his note is due for repayment Monday ~$15k total.
> >
> >     I need a way to ensure I get paid current and I don't let him get
> >     behind during the 'sale'. I was thinking to quit being the nice guy
> >     and demand the past due balance + the note in full + 3 months
> >     transit in advance so I don't get screwed during the sale process if
> >     he gets behind again. I don't know if he can even come up with the
> >     money and my only leverage is to turn his port down... I have a
> >     strange feeling he may try to stall me as long as possible until the
> >     competition can thing in transit and run off without paying the
> bill....
> >
> >
> >     Sorry for he rant, just sick of helping people because every time I
> >     do I end up regretting it.
> >
> >     TJ
> >
> >
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