For the average home owner I doubt a stolen NVR is real high on the threat
list.

On Tue, Aug 20, 2019, 5:51 PM Daniel White <dwh...@atheral.com> wrote:

> Problem with NVR's though is if it is a burglary... you can easily walk
> away with the evidence.  If the video is in the cloud... you have it up
> till they destroy the camera or internet connection.
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> Ken Hohhof wrote on 8/20/19 16:39:
>
> Good point about the NVR.  Having one camera stream directly to the cloud may 
> sound like a good idea, but what happens when you start adding cameras, 
> inside and outside  the house.  An NVR gives you local storage and viewing 
> for all the cameras, but still allows notifications and remote viewing.  I 
> guess the privacy aspect of having all your security cam video "up in the 
> cloud" somewhere won't bother people if they're already OK with Alexa and 
> Facebook and Google snooping on them.
>
> It used to be people would buy an NVR system with 4-8 analog cameras and an 
> Internet connection on the NVR, now I see the kits are coming with digital 
> cameras, some are WiFi, some are POE.  But getting people to run Cat5 cable 
> is sooooooooo difficult these days, unless they have the electricians wire 
> the house for data while it's being built.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of 
> Andrew Haninger
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 4:32 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] home security cams (Nest, Ring, etc.)
>
> Here's a good thread that recently came up on 
> /.https://ask.slashdot.org/story/19/08/02/2129207/ask-slashdot-budget-friendly-webcam-without-a-cloud-service
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 5:28 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> 
> <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> Security cameras seem to be all the rage.  Many WiFi issues, but also I’m 
> tired of seeing them stream up to the cloud and then back down to the 
> customer’s phone when he’s sitting in his living room.  I understand when 
> they are away, they want to be alerted and shown a video of the UPS guy’s 
> butt walking away from the house.  But it seems very wasteful of bandwidth 
> when the customer is at home, for the data to go 
> house-Internet-cloud-Internet-house.  Or might go over cellular to the phone.
>
>
>
> Aside from the wasted bandwidth, there is a lot more to go wrong than if 
> everything stayed on their LAN.  Less complaining about missed alerts, delay, 
> black screens, etc.
>
>
>
> Does anybody know of a system sold in big box stores that can easily be set 
> up to keep the video local, but still go over the Internet when the customer 
> is away from home?  Or has everything become so cloud and Internet centric 
> that you can’t watch a camera 20 feet away without going to the cloud and 
> back?
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