If I want to pay more for 100% renewable electricity or organic eggs thats
my business.  Its one thing to have a socialist electrical grid but now you
want socialist generation as well?

//Lent?

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 10:19 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Same in NY, and I have the same complaints.  Same wire, same product,
> fake competition.
>
> On 8/21/2019 10:52 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> > We have it hear, I thought it was widespread, maybe not.  Transmission is
> > unbundled from generation.
> >
> > I find it annoying.  The alternative power companies are always calling
> to
> > get you to switch, sometimes with misleading sale tactics.  You hear
> about
> > people falling for bait-and-switch pricing where they end up paying more
> for
> > their power.  Also many municipalities put out bids and choose an energy
> > supplier which then applies to all residents (or all businesses) unless
> they
> > opt out.
> >
> > IMHO it's an unnecessary complication.  It's not like gasoline where they
> > can at least claim to have a better product, electrons are electrons, and
> > the power is blended anyway.  It's not like the power you get was
> generated
> > by the supplier you chose, or that you  will have less outages or better
> > voltage or something.  It's strictly about price.  Electricity is a
> > commodity.  I don't want the hassle of choosing a power generation
> supplier
> > each year.  It feels just like choosing a health insurance supplier on
> the
> > marketplace each year, I look forward to that like a colonoscopy.
> >
> > I think the power companies like ComEd and Ameren are forced to buy solar
> > and wind power anyway from those who choose to generate it, so I'm
> missing
> > the big benefit.  I seriously doubt this has saved me any money from
> > "competition".
> >
> > As far as the question about being a reseller for one of these power
> > "CLECs", I would avoid it, if only because they are viewed by many
> people as
> > kind of shady.  Tricksters with robocalls.  Maybe sell CBD oil instead,
> that
> > seems to be all the rage.  Apparently the remaining video rental places
> > actually exist to sell CBD products.  That must be fun.  Take the kids to
> > rent a VHS tape and they say "look, Daddy, they have gummies, can we get
> > some?"
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 9:26 AM
> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Reselling Electricity
> >
> > They tried to do the CLEC type of thing with power years ago.  Maybe
> just in
> > California.  Was a disaster.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Osmon
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 9:31 PM
> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Reselling Electricity
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 04:12:25PM -0400, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> >> Has anyone here looking into becoming a reseller for a wholesale
> >> electric company?
> > At scale, that's effectively what a data center becomes...
> >
> > Never thought about it on bigger scale.
> >
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