I read an article once which claimed that to satisfy worldwide electric demand via wind alone would require extracting 100% of the energy from the wind.  That is to say, it would require stopping the wind.

-Adam

On 8/22/2019 5:25 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

I am unschooled in this, but since windmills extract energy from wind, they would actually DECREASE wind locally. Might be pretty hard to measure though.


bp
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On 8/22/2019 2:18 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:
I believe that mountain lions go downwind to stalk their prey. Is there any chance that the increased wind caused by the windmills has led to an influx of mountain lions because their prey is easier to stalk? Somebody should look into this.

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 4:08 PM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com <mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com>> wrote:

    Thats completely bogus.  Windmills don't attract cats.  The wind
    from the windmills blows away the smell of predators which causes
    the mice and birds to come out.  Its the mice and birds that
    attract the cats.

    On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 4:04 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
    <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

        Well I hear that windmills attract cats.

        Sent from my iPhone

        > On Aug 22, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Bill Prince
        <part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
        >
        > Based upon what I've read, the danger to birds is way, way
        overstated. Probably at least an order of magnitude. Cats are
        far more dangerous to birds.
        >
        >
        > bp
        > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
        >
        >> On 8/22/2019 1:10 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
        >> You are diving down on a mouse that was disturbed by the
        tip vortex off a 300mph passing blade tip and swap... 
         300mph _next_ blade tip knocks you into oblivion...
        >>
        >>> On 08/22/2019 01:01 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
        >>> Well, that explains the bats, but what about the raptors?
        Do they just die from disgust because they think it's an eyesore?
        >>>
        >>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 6:53 PM Chuck McCown
        <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
        <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>> wrote:
        >>>
        >>>     There is a low pressure zone on the lee side of the
        blade that
        >>>     apparently is
        >>>     dramatic enough of a pressure change to cause some
        kind of lung
        >>>     damage to
        >>>     bats.
        >>>
        >>>     -----Original Message-----
        >>>     From: Robert Andrews
        >>>     Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 5:27 PM
        >>>     To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
        <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
        >>>     Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Reselling Electricity
        >>>
        >>>     That was back in 2012, and the blades were 75 Meters
        now blades are
        >>>     exceeding 104 Meters
        >>>
        >>>     On 08/21/2019 04:23 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
        >>>      > Ummm   blade tip speed is still pretty darn high.
        Just because
        >>>     it looks
        >>>      > slow doesn't mean that it is... 180Mph...
        >>>      >
        >>>      >
        >>>
        
https://gizmodo.com/the-worlds-biggest-wind-turbine-blades-are-so-long-thei-5930272
        >>>      >
        >>>      > On 08/21/2019 04:13 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
        >>>      >> Not the new giant ones. They move very slowly &
        the birds & bats
        >>>     just fly
        >>>      >> around them.
        >>>      >>
        >>>      >>
        >>>      >> bp
        >>>      >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
        >>>      >>
        >>>      >> On 8/21/2019 3:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
        >>>      >>> Wind kills bats and raptors and migratory waterfowl
        >>>      >>
        >>>      >
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