Had a foster daughter get ejected and died at the scene.  Her BF was belted in. 
 No injuries.  She drove like a bat out of hell and never wore a belt unless 
she was rinding with me, and even then it was a psychological battle of the 
wills to enforcement.  So it is a personal crusade of mine.

In other news has my first MRI today.  Was not expecting to get so hot.  They 
gave me a disk of images.  Looks like I have 3 herniated disks.  Official news 
to come.  I hear most radiology is done in India these days.

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> On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> 
> Saw that in the paper.  Yeah, I remember the whole seat belt arguments.  We 
> will get trapped in a burning car.  One of the best ones were that said they 
> might need to bail out if the car was going over a cliff.  I always look to 
> see if fatal wrecks involve ejection,  they frequently do.  No way to take 
> advantage of a century of auto safety improvements if you don’t stay inside 
> the fricken car.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Craig Baird <cr...@xpressweb.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Came across a similar thing last Sunday.  Drove past a wreck where a pickup 
>> truck was upside-down about 100 feet off the highway.  Later found out that 
>> there were three vehicles in a line.  Second vehicle was a U-Haul.  Last 
>> vehicle was this pickup.  The pickup pulled out to pass.  While it was 
>> along-side the U-Haul, the U-Haul pulled out to pass as well.  Guessing the 
>> driver didn't check his mirror.  The pickup veered off the road to avoid the 
>> U-Haul hitting it.  Problem was the shoulder was about three feet wide, and 
>> then a 30 foot embankment.  The pickup flipped a number of times and ended 
>> up on the roof.  There were five people in the pickup.  Two in front, and 
>> three in back.  All three in the back seat were without seat belts.  All 
>> three were ejected.  Two were life-flighted and the third was killed.  Front 
>> seat occupants were wearing seat belts and walked away with just bumps and 
>> scratches.  Didn't even go to the hospital.  It's odd that back when I was a 
>> kid, and they were talking about making a mandatory seat belt law, there 
>> were lots of people up in arms over it.  One of the common reasons I heard 
>> was "If you're in a rollover, you're better off being ejected."  Ummm... no.
>> 
>> People who don't wear seat belts are either stupid or suicidal.
>> 
>> Incidentally, they're still looking for the U-Haul driver, who didn't even 
>> stop.  They're assuming he was unaware of what was going on to the side and 
>> behind him.  In addition to wearing your seat belt, always be sure to check 
>> your mirror before you pull out to pass.
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:55 AM dave via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
>>> +100%
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 8/30/19 11:56 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>> I developed the habit when I was first learning to fly when I was 17 years 
>>>> old. 
>>>> I feel naked if I don’t click that seat belt. 
>>>>  
>>>> From: Sterling Jacobson
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 10:51 AM
>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday
>>>>  
>>>> Wow.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> My kids get on my case if I’m not wearing mine, so we’re good here, but 
>>>> man that is scary.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:58 AM
>>>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Supervising the use of a large Vermeer Rock Wheel yesterday, heard a noise 
>>>> from                         the street, looked over and saw a minivan 
>>>> airborne.  Rotating in all possible axes (axes is the proper plural of 
>>>> axis, I actually looked it up).    Watching for people to come flying out 
>>>> of the vehicle, I was dialing 911 while trying to cross a very busy 
>>>> street.  Van came to a rest on its side.  A man and his daughter came 
>>>> climbing out the back window. 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Superficial scratches.  Shaken up, but largely unharmed.  They had mounted 
>>>> the curb and hit a fire hydrant.  The hydrant came to rest half way from 
>>>> where it was originally and where the car came to rest.  
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Quite a scene normally seen in movies.  End over end, spinning and 
>>>> rolling.  It must have been 6’ off the ground when I first saw it. 
>>>> 
>>>> I feared the worst.  For a time I was an EMT when I was young.  Glad to 
>>>> have had the training, did not like being an EMT.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> I would say seat belts saved them from certain critical injury and most 
>>>> likely death. 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Hope everyone always wears their seat belts. 
>>>> 
>>>> My wife is still with me due to wearing hers. 
>>>> 
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