I just googled the geology of central Pennsylvania.
Yeah, that is definitely some serious rock you got going there.
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Assumingly at considerably more expense.
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*From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com
*Sent: *Friday, September 6, 2019 2:56:08 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fiber
I do rock all day long. Even solid rock at times.
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 1:53 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber
Rock.
> On Sep 6, 2019, at 3:44 PM, mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> Why?
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 10:40 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Colin Stanners
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber
>
> And the cost to run underground fiber in central Pennsylvania is
> astronomical -- if not impossible.
>
>> On 9/6/19 12:37 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>> Then they need to move to underground, as long as it's done well
and the
>> other utilities are good with CBYD, chances of problems are very
small.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 11:32 AM Matt Hoppes
>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>> mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>
>> That's what everyone keeps saying.... but my fiber provider
sends me
>> e-mails every other week about pole fires taking out fiber, trees
>> taking
>> out fiber, wind taking out fiber, etc.
>>
>> On 9/6/19 12:30 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>> > When it's broken it can be expensive, but frankly it doesn't
>> break that
>> > often.
>> > -Adam
>> >
>> > On 9/6/2019 12:29 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>> >> Except the contractor gets paid every time the fiber gets
broken.
>> >>
>> >> On 9/6/19 12:18 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>> >>> If you've only got 2 or 3 people *total* then you'd be
relying on
>> >>> contractors a lot and basically just being an owner/GC. Your
>> capex
>> >>> will be higher than with in-house labor, but console yourself
>> with
>> >>> the idea that the contractor only gets paid once, and you get
>> paid
>> >>> for 50 years.
>> >>>
>> >>> -Adam
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 9/6/2019 8:30 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>> >>>> People ask why I don’t do fiber. The following story
pretty much
>> >>>> sums it up. For those doing fiber, how do you do it with
a 2 or
>> 3
>> >>>> man team? We’d be run ragged. How do you stay sain?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Someone was logging up in Ogdensburg near Joe Hill and took a
>> tree
>> >>>> down which took another tree down which took another tree
down
>> which
>> >>>> snapped off the side arms of the utility pole taking out the
>> >>>> powerlines which burned the fiber underneath it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Last night about 11 o’clock I drove up there on my way
home and
>> >>>> found the Crown Castle guys trying to figure out where
the fiber
>> >>>> damage was, I talk to them for a moment and they were like
>> yeah it’s
>> >>>> like 2500 feet away from here but we can’t figure out
where the
>> >>>> fiber goes, I said follow me, so they got over there and
>> started work.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Zito was already over there fixing their fiber with about 10
>> guys
>> >>>> and five trucks.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I just spun back up there and as of this morning they (both
>> >>>> companies) are still trying to figure out why the fiber
is not
>> working.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Add to this the utility easement is on the side of a
mountain
>> and
>> >>>> not right beside the road. These guys had entire teams and
>> haven’t
>> >>>> fixed 1,500ft of fiber in 12 hours plus had to wait nearly
>> 7hrs to
>> >>>> even access the local due to power lines down.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
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