They are discontinued, Cambium stopped making them around the beginning of the 
year.  As far as being a better 22 than the 25, that’s “fake news”.  Actually I 
would have to check the spec sheet but I thought they were claiming 23 or 24 
dBi.

 

It seems to be part of a strategy of sharing designs with ePMP but charging 
more.

 

Customers do seem to like the aesthetics of the 450b dish.  Swapping for 
left-of-pole mounting is a giant pain, especially after you’ve attached the 
radome.  And installers complain about not being able to see the lights.  
What’s strange is we still use reflector dishes for the 3 GHz SMs.

 

FWIW, we have solved performance issues with the 450b high gain by swapping in 
a connectorized SM and one of the KP 2 ft Proline dishes, but that’s a big and 
godawful expensive solution.  Strangely the performance increases more than 
you’d expect from the signal level alone, maybe some kind of sidelobe issue?

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 10:23 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450SMs

 

i was told theyre not discontinued, just not favored and then something about 
the 22 vs 25 being a better 22 than the 25 or something for geeks

 

 

On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 10:04 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Okay I haven't paid a lot of attention to PMP450 since I've been in a 
Telrad shop for a few years.  It looks like the old style SM was 
discontinued.

The Old SM + Reflector was said to have 25dbi of gain.

The replacement 450b "high gain" integrated dish is 22dbi.

Are you kidding me?  Cambium, why you takin' my db's away bro?



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