Just remember…
When anyone at Cambium gives a time frame, you can add 6 Months to a year.
If you want to be amazed, they will announce next year.  Release 3 Months in 
advance and with working firmware.

AT THAT POINT, we can be amazed.

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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 4:44 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450SMs

Can not believe nobody else has chimed in with the good news here. Talked to 
Matt at the Cambium Booth last week as Wispalooza, he said spring 2020 they 
will be releasing the old form factor SM again (5ghz only) with the new 450b 
guts inside. He also said there will not be a speedcap. sounded like $250/'ish 
price range. I can not tell you how amazing this was to hear as we have 
literally over 500-700 reflectors out that is so convenient to be able to just 
swap the bare SM and not have to do re-alignments.

On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 6:24 PM Ken Hohhof 
<af...@kwisp.com<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
Maybe they just need to go with something like TwistPort and let 3rd party 
manufacturers sell dishes.  Oh, right, regulatory approvals.  Nonethless, I 
suspect that may be where they are headed with the connectorized SM.


From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 5:13 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450SMs


If they sold me a full 2' dish at 28dbi then I could definitely find places to 
use that.


On 10/23/2019 5:52 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Yeah, a one year delay is a pretty big oops, but it’s not really a solution to 
the problem anyway.  Except that 450b gets rid of the hated speed caps and also 
enables 5.1 GHz sub band.  I’m not thrilled about SMA connectors on the top, 
KPP included a nice mounting post for the current style connectorized SM, I’ll 
have to see if it still works with the new SM.

What they probably need is a slightly larger and also deeper parabolic dish, 
get the gain back to 25 dBi, and better sidelobe performance.  Or get to the 
bottom of why the 450d/450b style dish seems so much more susceptible to 
reflection and multipath degradation.  I think Cambium expected higher xmt 
power would compensate for lower antenna gain, but that does nothing for 
downstream.

I heard a rumor they were redesigning or eliminating the cable gland?  Was that 
mentioned at Wispapalooza?


From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com><mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of 
Sean Heskett
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 2:30 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com><mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450SMs

They are coming out with a 450b connectorized but at wispapalooza they said it 
was delayed until March 2020 (it was supposed to ship March of 2019)

-Sean


On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 9:04 AM Adam Moffett 
<dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Okay I haven't paid a lot of attention to PMP450 since I've been in a
Telrad shop for a few years.  It looks like the old style SM was
discontinued.

The Old SM + Reflector was said to have 25dbi of gain.

The replacement 450b "high gain" integrated dish is 22dbi.

Are you kidding me?  Cambium, why you takin' my db's away bro?



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