At least juniper doesn’t require a constant internet connection to check in to verify licenses. Cisco may as well shut down and just go full fledged with Meraki now.
“Oops your bgp license expired let me just shut that off for you” No thank you. On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 2:07 PM Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote: > In some ways, Juniper isn't any better than Cisco in terms of licensed > software features and it seems to only be getting worse. Some features (on > *some* platforms) are honor based, but lots are not and require a license. > You can purchase licenses from any Juniper reseller. I'm not sure what the > process is for getting J-Care on used/grey-market gear, as I have never > tried to do that. > > You need an active support contract in order to download software from > their website, although it's not as restrictive as Cisco's which now > requires you to have a contract on a specific device to get firmware for > that device iirc. > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 4:45 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) < > li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > >> Seems like a good question to ask the burning question I've had about >> juniper and specifically how juniper deals with license/firmware updates, >> etc. >> >> We've been a cisco shop since day one. Over the years they've gotten >> more and more aggressive with their licensing requirements and controlled >> access to firmware updates. At this point they seem to care less about >> selling hardware and are more about extracting as much license and support >> revenue as possible which makes picking up a used router a much riskier >> proposition. >> >> How does juniper handle this type of stuff, especially in relation to >> used gear? And in the context of getting the right software features (bgp, >> reasonable number of ospf routes, etc) enabled. And so on. >> >> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 7:39 PM Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote: >> >>> Not necessarily. Depending on model many have redundant routing >>> engines, multiple power supplies, fan trays, etc. You may want to have >>> spare cards and possibly a empty chassis in the really odd event of a >>> backplane issue. All depends on you risk tolerance. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> Mark Radabaugh >>> Amplex >>> 22690 Pemberville Rd >>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/22690+Pemberville+Rd+Luckey,+OH+43443?entry=gmail&source=g> >>> Luckey, OH 43443 >>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/22690+Pemberville+Rd+Luckey,+OH+43443?entry=gmail&source=g> >>> 419-261-5996 >>> >>> On Dec 31, 2019, at 9:18 PM, Jon Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Does one have to buy two of these for redundancy as we do with our >>> current but smaller routers? >>> >>> Jon Langeler >>> Michwave Technologies, Inc. >>> >>> >>> On Dec 31, 2019, at 11:11 AM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Can go wrong with juniper.. I’ll vouch for the MX204’s great units. 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